Formula 1 2018

Eh, who cares? Only the Constructors, I think. :wink: And its a given Mercedes will win.

I can think of plenty, but I’ll keep them to myself. I’ll just say Jim Clark would never have had Justin Beiber on the podium. :smiley:

:slight_smile: Jim Clark off the track he is certainly not! (but let’s not be coy here, Jimmy Clark was well known to have a fondness for the ladies) But there are no blemishes to do with his driving I guess was my point.

I find Lewis’s lifestyle and musical/fashion tastes to be equally exhausting and gaudy but that is a purely personal taste issue, on the track his style is attacking and thoughtful, accurate and inventive but at the same time pretty much scrupulously fair. A mention of Jim Clark in that context is certainly not out of place.

This. I don’t mind most of what Hamilton does, it’s glamarous and goes well with F1. In fact it’d be nice if a couple of other drivers had similar lifestyles, for the diversity of personalities. My problem is when he drags his celebrity friends into the race. Hang out with them on the grid, fine, hug them across the fence after the race, fine, but don’t take them along to the podium, that’s just showing off.

That pre-recorded message from Will Smith was just cringeworthy. The guys at Mixed Apex got it spot on, it should be the team celebrating with him, since they were more than instrumental in his chamionship.

Mexico put on a great show, colourful and fun. From the shots of the crowd it looked like there was a great atmosphere. If I ever go to another race, it’ll be Mexico or Singapore.

I thought most of the drivers of the older era were playboys. I remember reading stories of one driver stealing another’s girlfriend… Different times.

Different times indeed but I think there was a certain appreciation back then of how short life could be as an F1 driver and I wouldn’t be surprised if that played into some of the more “colourful” exploits.

And let’s just give a nod once again to one of the people most associated with such shenanigans. Mr. J. S. W. Hunt, not a man to shun the delights of wine and women.

sure, that’s a Daily Mail link but to be honest, have a quick google and the tale remains the same regardless of the source.

And I thought it was just me. :smiley:

What the hell is Lewis doing when not on the track? :confused:

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/serial-rape-suspect-tied-to-at-least-5-attacks-in-dallas-and-louisiana-police-say/ar-BBPmUYI?ocid=spartandhp

I should be ashamed of myself.

Fascinating Brazilian Grand Prix.

Mercedes pole position masked a worrying lack of race pace. (or it would be worrying if we weren’t at the end of the season) They were nowhere near the Red Bulls in race trim.

Once again we see Hamilton making the difference and keeping a rather clunky car right at the front, Bottas was unable to do the same.

Verstappen and Ricciardo made the most of the superior machinery on the day and Max was running comfortably at the front until…Oh Max. You silly boy. I was thinking you were maturing but the Ocon incident was foolish in the extreme.

Was Ocon wrong for his move? The Stewards thought so and I’m 50/50 on it but one thing that is certain is that Max had no need to be anywhere near it. The decision he made to even play that game with Ocon was his and his alone, he was under no pressure. Hamilton told him as much in a very gentle way in the briefing room. Pointing out that it was Verstappen that had most to lose.

Max is hugely talented but the ability to assess, process and execute crunch decisions at times like this are the difference between being a world champion or not and the reason why Hamilton won in an inferior car (both here and at various other time this season)

He was a lap ahead, he wasn’t playing any game. He was run off by an idiot who is frustrated he doesn’t have a seat for next year. Even if it had been for position, it would have been ridiculous.

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Have you not seen Verstappen drive before?

He knew Ocon was there, he knew that Ocon was faster and trying to unlap himself (which you are allowed to do) He decided to strongarm him in the way that he has done to to others on numerous other occasions, with mixed results.

Ocon’s driving was at fault but Verstappen is not in control of that, Verstappen controls Verstappen and his decision-making was woeful. They both gambled unnecessarily but neither was forced to do so and only one of them had a race lead to lose.

Bottom line, a more mature and considered driver doesn’t have his car anywhere near Ocon in those circumstances because there was absolutely nothing to be gained in keeping him behind you.

In fact, if Ocon was faster at that point (which he was) then having him in front gives you the possibility of DRS and a tow to build an even bigger gap to to your real race rivals and stops you having to give brain-space to continue fighting him.
If Ocon is in front and faster, it costs Verstappen nothing. If Ocon is in front and slower he gets blue-flagged and it costs Verstappen nothing.

The only thing that harms Verstappen is choosing to fight a faster car, a car which can have no bearing on the podium positions.

He is still young, he may well learn. He may not. Hamilton had a chat with him in the cool-down area and he’d be wise to listen.

Ocon was entitled to unlap himself. But one of Max’s big problems is that he is still growing up. He’s still very young. Isn’t there a part of the brain that deals with risk that doesn’t mature until the age of 25 or so?

I don’t understand this unlapping talk. Sometimes it happens that a lapped car will have some pace over a front runner later in the race, due to tire fatigue or a mechanical problem or something. But in that case the lapping and unlapping take place laps apart, like someone will get lapped on lap 35 and then have an opportunity on lap 50 to unlap themselves. Ocon got lapped the corner immediately prior, it makes no sense to talk about this as though it were an opportunity to unlap himself. The only reason he didn’t get blue flags and be forced to jump out of the way is because Max didn’t park behind him for 3 corners. Ocon never had the pace to fight with Max, and Max had every reason to assume Ocon would allow himself to be passed there. 100% on Ocon, IMO.

It happened with Hamilton some years ago. He got lapped then unlapped himself. The person who had lapped him was Vettel. Vettel complained and was told that the move was perfectly legal.

You keep saying this, but it ain’t anywhere close to true. The Mercedes is by far, and has been for the last several years, the superior car.

I don’t know what else to tell you other than to read the race reports and the collective output of the world’s motorsport press. Find me one that thinks it has been “by far” the best car this year.

It certainly wasn’t on Sunday as the race pace of both Red Bulls was showing. Did you notice how fast both Ricciardo and Verstappen were? The Merc and Ferrari were having tyre problems and that has been the case for the Merc for the last three races.

It is certainly a very good car but it has not been clearly the best this year. Of course with Hamilton in it it can be put on pole and win regularly but no, not a stand-out winner in and of itself. It isn’t an MP4/4.

Ocpn had the right to unlap himself, but he shouldn’t be dogfighting to unlap himself. But yes, it takes two to tango, and Verstappen needs to learn to back off when there’s nothing to be gained.

Hehe I think it’s been a long season and everybody’s getting tired and cranky. Wouldn’t surprise me if in Abu Dhabi, when the chequered flag drops everybody in the paddock says “screw this, we’ll come back in January and clean up, let’s go home now.”

Just saw the fan footage of Vettel leaving the scales during quali. Hoooly! That could’ve been much more dangerous than it turned out. He’s lucky nobody got hurt.

Back to the start of the weekend, gotta admire Hulk’s honesty. Ted Kravitz asks him which is more important, being the first of the rest in points, or getting 4th in constructors standings? Hulk: 4th in constructors cause it pays a bigger bonus.

Oh and poor Alonso, finishing his last season in F1 in quasi anonymity at the back of the grid. He deserves better than that.

I might feel sorry for Alonso if he ever apologises for failing denounce racism among his fans.

Haha, I suppose every F1 forum must have at least one childish fan taking miserable cheap shots at drivers. Goes with the territory. I still enjoy this one, everybody else is mature and knowdgeable.

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It was more a throwaway comment than anything else but since you seem to have taken exception to it, I suppose I should ask if you feel Alonso’s stance in the referenced matter was acceptable? If he has since apologised and I missed it, then I am prepared to apologise myself. In any case I don’t see how it is “childish” to take a stance against racism. There isn’t much else to discuss right now since the season is pretty much done and dusted.