Bye Chefguy, bye** 'possum stalker**, sorry if my “nitwitism” has caused you two boys distress. But** Chefboy** I didn’t respond to your rather worn report that the media is owned by rich folks because that obvious point has been discussed ad nauseam and even though 75% of the actual reporting and compiling media were polled as dyed-in-the-wool liberal democrats, the owners of the largest and most influential newspapers and television networks were judged to be slightly conservative, but even so most of these folks liked to hob nob with the smart set and so they largely voted Democrat, and they voted with their money.
And 'possum stalker, sorry I didn’t address any of the arguments in the closed thread that you thought needed re-addressing. I didn’t see any that I thought worth revisiting. What? Is your finger broke? Why didn’t you type them in?
Geez. Take this OP job and shove it! I quit!
And no, Mr Evil Breakfast, it is not all right for Fox to violate the rule of objective reporting when they are reporting and not editorializing. All that matters in reporting is an effective transfer of truth.
But the use of the time-earned reputation for honesty and accuracy by a highly regarded news outlet, such as the New York Times et al, to promote a personal political agenda under a guise of objective reporting, is much much worse.
If this OP is a representative example of what passes for a 'great debate" among American conservatives, no wonder Fox pundits like Bill O’Reiley end up just shouting at folks instead – anything more civilized is just too difficult for them.
I propose that Fox has a strong conservative bias. Consider the following:
Owner: Rupert Murdoch, who stated “we’ll do whatever is our patriotic duty.”
President: Roger Ailes, whose former job was as a conservative media advisor (no experience as a journalist).
Talking Head: Tony Snow, who according to his Online Bio “took a sabbatical from journalism to work in the White House for President George H. Bush.”
Talking Head: David Asman, who formerly headed the (rather conservative) op/ed pages of the Wall Street Journal.
Talking Head: Brit Hume, who formerly worked for the conservative Weekly Standard.
Talking Head: Sean Hannity who describes himself as a conservative.
Talking Head: Bill O’Reilly (see Below)
Talking Head: Newt Gingrich, yes that Newt Gingrich.
Show: Special Report with Brit Hume, which in a recent study was found to feature disproportionatly Republican and conservative guests (and virtually exclusivly white males).
Show: O’Reilly Factor (see Below)
Bill O’Reilly deserves a special place, all to himself. Hume, for instance, is conservative but is undeniably a fully credentialed journalist. I am not willing to say the same about O’Reilly. O’Reilly claims to be independent. He cites positions such as being anti-death penalty. His preference to the death penalty is to put people in “gulags” (his word). Bill O’Rielly is independent of something alright; my vote is for reality.
Consider that he has:
- Accuses a sitting member of congress (Jim McDermott, D-WA) of “giving aid and comfort to Saddam.” Note this is an accuastion of treason.
- Promoted a boycott of French goods.
- Suggested an African-American guest, Rev. Al Dixon, could “go back to Africa” Extra! May/June 2002, pp22
- Compared the Koran to Mein Kampf, and later denied it,
- Stated that treason laws might apply to “some of the peaceniks that are walking around, but that be a little bit of a stretch here.”
- Said criticism of the Patriot act was “seditious”
- Stated that noncitizens should not have attorney-client privledge
- Called District Court Judge Shira Schedindlin “subversive” for disallowing a student to be detained indefinitly as a material witness. He suggested the House Judiciary Comittee impeach her.
- Surreally sugested in May 2002 that there might be a link between the Oklahoma City Bombing and Al Qaeda.
- Asked if “Al Gore [is] running on a quasi-socialist platform”
- Suggested “homosexuals, whether they’re in the Boy Scouts or in the Army or in high school [should] Shut up, don’t tell anyone what you do, your life will be a lot easier.”
You’ll note that I included only his opinions, not his numerous unretracted false statements (commonly called lies). The former are indicitive of his right wing views. The latter are demonstrative of his sheer insanity. I am getting tired of typing, and O’Reilly’s documented lying is so vast that I can hardly do it justice. If you need instances O’Reilly lying outright, I’m happy to provide them.
Please further note that this post is not an exhaustive documenting of Fox News’s Right Wing Bias, it is barely scratching the surface.
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Ok. You don’t want to debate (as it seems you do not), you don’t get a thread.
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