*"Sorry, folks, a good discussion, but we don’t let trolls play in our sandbox.’ * - Lynn, Administrator.
Your wish is my command Lynn, now that that pesky troll has been** banned**, let us continue on with our good discussion.
**Why do liberals hate FOXNEWS? **Is it…
Because they don’t have their own national radio talk show?
Because they hate the American people because they consider them low-life rabble who are coarse and fundamental in their way of thinking?
Because the election was stolen from Al Gore and then someone stole Al Gore and put him away in a lock box where he can’t run for president as a martyr?
Because they wanted the Iraqi people to work out their difficulties with Saddam on their own and then Bush and Fox and the Devil intervened and today the Iraqis are free?
Naw, even the least of Liberals aren’t that shallow.
What sort of screwball questions are these? The premises don’t merit debate, as far as I can tell. Perhaps if you rephrased them in a more coherent format, you would get some response.
I’m a liberal. and I don’t hate FOX News, exactly, I just don’t find particularly unbiase, interesting, or useful as a news source.
Does the OP seriously believe that someone taking issue with Fox News would ONLY do so for the reasons listed in his post? Because that would be, you know, silly.
Sure cheddarsnax, I get it. You want a real official style debate. Ok, like, you know, here’s the proposition…
** Resolved:** After fifty years of neo- liberal reporting of information by all major news outlets the American public embraced the more balanced information that came available through FOXNEWS with enthusiam. This shift in their prime source of information from traditional news to FOX refects a basic need of the american people to extract accurate information from the outside events that effect them.
And Liberals, who need public information distributed that promotes the social ideas of a self-selected elite, hate that which disrupts their grand march towards socialism.
Interesting that you would spout the same “liberal media” nonsense as other dittoheads. The “major news outlets” are owned by mega-corporations, who (with the exception of Time Warner) toe the conservative line and support the conservative agenda with rather large contributions. It would seem that much of your news over the past five decades has been slanted to the right after all.
I see no cite to support a “shift…in prime source of information”. Can you offer one?
Your last point is speculation and opinion, not debate.
Do you want to rebut any of things that were posted in the locked thread, or are you just showboating?
Lots of people sing the same song you do, my friend.
Whenever two people disagree with a conservative it becomes a ‘Great Liberal Conspiracy’. Whenever two conservatives disagree with a liberal its ‘The Voice of the People is Finally Heard’. This is reminiscent of the mystery of how the media can be ‘liberal’ when half the media outlets program several hours of bitching about the ‘liberal media’ every day.
For people who hate the ‘victim culture,’ conservatives spend a lot of time bewailing their trials at the hands of the pointed-headed intellectuals. (not that I’m pickin’ on you, Milum. just a general observation).
That’s much more true about conservatives then about liberals.
I think the basic problem that liberals have with Fox News is this: they editorialize when they should just report. In simpler terms, they give their opinion and pass it off as factual news.
Which is one of the very first things they teach you, or they should teach you, at journalism school. I don’t care if you editorialize, but if you are going to do so, then say so upfront, rather then trying to pass it off as news.
That is the essence of what Fox does.
And it is bad and shoddy journalism, not to mention bad and shoddy ethics.
I like having three news networks with slants, and different slants from every journalist. Sure, it would be nice if they wore bias lablels on their heads, but over time you learn them. Dan Rather: D. Britt Hume: R. Walter Cronkite: D. George Will: R. Cokie Roberts and Sam Donaldson: D.
Fox News actually hires liberals and lets them speak. I know many people don’t watch Fox on principle, or whatever, but that does make one less able to know the actual facts of what goes on.
But, O’Reilly is an increasingly unhinged blowhard. Ann Coulter is like a verbal black mamba. Sean Hannity may well be the first artificial conservative life form. Or, he reads off his notes a lot.
But, Fox used to have FAIR’s Cohen on their media criticism show (insomnia, and I’m a geek). He left for greener pastures. No, he was not disappeared by Cal Thomas. How’s that for fair and balanced? Seriously.
Look! Over both of your left shoulders** fellow posters**. See ! People are looking. And they see…
*Would you like to present some ideas of your own (real ones, I mean) to start this debate? Or are you, ya know, just askin’?
What sort of screwball questions are these?
Does the OP seriously believe that someone taking issue with Fox News would ONLY do so for the reasons listed in his post? Because that would be, you know, silly.
Do you want to rebut any of things that were posted in the locked thread, or are you just showboating?
Interesting that you would spout the same “liberal media” nonsense as other dittoheads. *
And then Elucidator adds some dismissive in-house humor…
Fox? Is that the one with the Daily Show?
And then, finally,** Mr. Evil Breakfast** explains that FOX does not do what he was taught to do in journalism school, and Chefguy asks for a cite proving tha FOXNEWS is popular with the people.
Anyway thank you** Soup_du_jour**, for your opinion that Liberals hate Fox News because it is a blatantly biased source of news that claims to be objective. Your post was refreshingly honest in your opinionated views.
Whew! Being a OP poster child for the right on this leftman’s board is not a happy chore for the fainthearted, but I guess it could be worse; I could be declared a troll and banished.
Because Fox News has about the same level of interesting debate as the OP, and uses the same self-pitying, slanted rhetoric for beating its own chest.
It’s gotten to the point where I idolize conservative commentators who make rational, articulate arguments, just because they seem so rare in a world where Fox, Colter, Limbaugh, Hannity et al dominates that side of the debate.
So you present unfounded arguments, are taken to task for them, then refuse to debate and instead mock the people responding to your nitwitism? From what I’ve read from other conservatives on this board, they would be appalled to have such an ill-spoken person as yourself as a poster child for any of their causes. I know I’m done here.
** Milum **, Logic and coherent arguement rule in GD, not ideology. I often agree with ** Sam Stone ** because he makes logically points, rather than going for the Right-Wing Victim schtick.
And **Sam Stone ** is mighty conservative.
So to answer my own question, you are showboating (maybe Witnessing is a better word) and shan’t address any of the arguments in the closed thread. Or any arguments anywhere. Too bad. woulda been innersting.
because it can be misspelled faux news and its HILARIOUS, and if there is a news report and someone uses it as a cite you can pretend its not possibly true and its HILARIOUS
So, it’s somehow OK for Fox to ignore and violate one of the central tenants of journalism, but no one else is allowed to?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
