Fox News refers to Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama"

Wait, I use the fist bump all the time. Am I a terrorist?

Does anyone still take Fox News seriously? I suppose some people do. Damn.

“Only if you get of your ass and bring daddy his mo fo iced tea.”

Possibly. You’ll need to report to Gitmo for an undetermined amount of time until it’s been determined. If your case is looked at some time in the next six years, we can have all sorts of retards declare that “the system works!”.

Many millions do. Think of everyone you’ve ever met and everyone you’ve ever seen on TV. More than that.

-Joe

Heh. I had to google to find out the definition of that one. How does it compare to chickenhead, since that’s the latest my slang gets.

They were women with children in a homeless shelter so it was a rough crowd.

The difference is intent I guess. There’s a difference between having children intending to stay with the father, and it doesn’t work out and having children knowing full well, he’s not going to stay around and you repeat that pattern over and over and think that, that’s the way to live your life.

John Scalzi had a good rant about this.
I agree with him.

Well, at least BHO is fighting back now.

Yeah, I read about that yesterday and I think it’s a very smart move- he’s usually good about being on the offensive rather than defensive, and he’s aware that as a mysterious dark man, there are a lot of stupid rumors out there about him that collectively pose a problem. Fighting them is a much better response than ignoring them.

Hmm. No wonder this guy’s the Doper candidate.

Regarding the fightthesmears site, though, I wonder if it will really be very effective at convincing anyone who wants to believe the worst. It seems to me like they’ll just dismiss it as coming from Obama’s own website, therefore it’s all lies.

There’s nothing to be done about people who want to believe he’s a closet jihadist. But there are some people who really don’t know what the deal is, and for those people, as well as the news outlets who’ll cover any stupid rumor if enough people blog about it, it’s good that Obama is making sure the other side doesn’t have unfettered access to the microphone.

Nice to see him launching his own Snopes, but I think they’d do better to state the facts and skip the editorializing (e.g., referring to Roger Stone as a “proven GOP sleazemeister”).

I’m a bit turned off by the "Colbert Report"esque red-white-and-blue motif, too, but that’s my own personal aversion…

I must take a moment to ask you all to think of me this weekend, for I will be spending hours, and hours and HOURS, in a home where Fox is THE news show. The only news show, and it’s on 24/7. It’s all fox, all day, in this place. I’ll be spending some 19 hours there this weekend. And it’s a very loud television, too.
Maybe if I stop by on Monday, you all could help me scrub off some of the stupid? Hmm?
karol

19 hours? We may have to just write you off. :wink:

That’s how it is for me when I vist my inlaws, only it goes on for 2 or 3 days. My mother-in-law always has Fox on, 24/7. My father-in-law sits out in the garage, listening to right wing radio all day. After hearing a couple of hours Limbaugh and Medved, Fox seems like Air America.

Obama the “Canadian”?

[Sunrazor raises a tentative hand from deep in white-person land]

Um, excuse me? We, um, well, we’re what I guess you could call, like, “totally clueless” about some things. The only black people we ever see are a few students at the local junior college, and, um, one of the things we’ve heard them say is “baby mama” and “baby daddy” in reference to the person who has given birth to or fathered one’s child. There never seemed to be any derogatory meaning in the terms. We had no idea until just this week that there was any denigration involved. We’ve used the terms among ourselves to refer to our spouses, completely unaware of its negative connotations.

I know that I’ll now be expected to rescind my membership in the Barely Hip Old Farts Club and probably on the SDMB. Because other than being a bit put-off by the use of cultural slang in an otherwise formal news setting, I frankly wasn’t offended by the Fox News use of “baby mama.” Well, at least not any more than I’m otherwise always offended by Fox’s very existence.

I explained this earlier, but I wanted to revisit this issue a bit.

I think it’s already clear that we can’t know what the exact intent was.

I don’t really follow your reasoning here and I don’t think I want to waste this much time on Fox. The fact that I’m still thinking about this is a testament to the issue you’ve raised. I’ll finish by saying this much: they never would have used that term to describe a white woman and/or the wife of a black candidate. I think we can agree on that. E! would have, yes, but Fox News wouldn’t done it because it wouldn’t have made sense.

I was going to leave this alone too, especially at your last, reasoned response. I’d also like to add that, although you acknowledged a better word than “malicious” could have been used by you, I’d like to say I only reached for that word because it was already on the table. I also try but I can’t watch more than a few minutes of Fox without getting sick to my stomach.

You’re right, we can’t know what the exact intent was but the use of of such a “down-market” phrase by a putative news organization (we know the merits of that one) does imply that they meant “something” and it definitely wasn’t anything good. I also agree with the post stating that raising the spectre of a country turned to AAVE post-Obama-election is not implausible either.

I also failed to add in my original post that those memes were not the only ones that could be evoked by the use of such a phrase, nor would they necessarily all be raised in the minds of everyone, nor, if raised, be so clearly spelled out. I do think, however, that something racial, or at least cultural, was being proffered and the chum that buzz-phrase represented for the mind-sharks ready to receive it can’t have been positive.

Yes, we definitely can agree on the statement you just made.* As far as the last paragraph of my original post, I’m glad you’re thinking about it. I can own up to be just little bit hyperbolic but that’s owing to the fact that Fox is known to be less than a news station, more than a little partisan and I can’t believe they don’t often mean to arouse the base emotions of the plebian hordes at every turn they can. Please continue to think deeply in this way because, while taking the middle road can be good, sometimes a spade is really a spade. At least Fox might put it that way.

  • But they did use it to describe the wife of a black candidate. For all the scholarly and intellectual discussions here at the SDMB about what Obama represents racially, we know that history, many, if not most, Americans, and especially most Fox viewers only see him as black.

That was a misfired neuron at the end there. It should have been “they never would have used that term to describe a white woman and/or the wife of a white candidate.”

Much to do about nothing…

:rolleyes: