It;s more like Fox news haters decide to get all worked up about something inconsequential 15 times a year.
Calling it that, doesn’t it make it so.
Anyhoo. After the last eight years of personally charged attacks having sunk political discourse to an all time low I find little remarkable in this particular comment. It’s not as if they were comparing her to a Nazi.
Not you necessarily you, but I find the hypocrisy quotient in this thread to be off the scale. Those posters most indignant being among the worst offenders in namecalling against politicians they don’t like.
Only eight?
Apparently Democrats invented the Politics of Personal Destruction. Someone better tell Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz. They think they have a copyright on it.
Gee, I wonder why Fox News haters do this 16 times/year. Maybe because Fox News does this repeatedly? Did you even consider the possibility?
Does this happen to other news networks that have a slant to the left, in the opinion of far-right wingers?
Yeah, they be hating on the Fox News! Word, Scylla! My dog!
I asked a Person of Color about that, and she said it was a slip of the tongue; “baby daddy” means the same as “my baby’s daddy.”
No it doesn’t.
Word up, yo!
I think Michelle Obama referred to Barack that way (my babie’s daddy) for several reasons: 1. it’s a fact and 2. to show him as more than just a talking head, wanting your vote–to show him as a whole person. Afterall, to these girls, all he is is their daddy. It’s a warm and loving title to have and she is proud to own it.
Baby daddy is something else again. But let us not forget that Michelle Obama did not say “baby daddy” nor did Barack ever say “baby mama”. They would not refer to one another that way because that is not what they are to one another. For a “news” organization to take it upon themselves to delineate Michelle AND Barack this way (a babymama has a stud somewhere, no?) is unprofessional and nasty.
I think my daddy (I don’t have a baby daddy. I have my babies’ daddy and I have my own daddy and today was a day to honor both of them) was right when he said you can’t fix stupid. I’m done trying.
I drafted two responses to you and deleted them both before submitting. It’s good that I did. In an attempt to remain level-headed, let me just say that your friend is wrong. The two terms do not have the same meaning.
I can explain this until I turn blue, others can wax more eloquently than I on its pejorative and racially charged effects, or you can look up the literally thousands of news and blog sites that have decried FOX’s racially motivated, incendiary and inappropriate use of the term, but if folks are Hell-bent on denying facts, or excusing what’s no longer possible to deny, then there can be no common ground, and no hope for true equanimity among the races.
I have to say I expected better than this from 'Dopers.
I really don’t know what to say about the sheer idiocy being spewed in this thread.
“Baby mama” and “baby daddy” are blatantly obvious derogatory and racially loaded expressions. Anyone who is claiming otherwise is simply deluding themselves.
I surely cannot claim any expertise in black culture, whiter than Casper and a peckerwood to boot. But my impression of Ms Obama is such that not only do I doubt she would use such a phrase, I would bet that if any of the Obama girls talked like that in from of Mama Obama, they’d regret it. And right quick, too.
They took the phrasing Michelle used (which was already odd) and pushed it to the more urban slang that it was reminiscent of. Yes, it changed the connotation, I’ve not denied that one bit. And I’m not surprised that someone would attempt to nudge things to portray a politician in a worse, or better, light. You might want to reread my posts to see what I’m defending and not defending. Or not.
How about this: they wouldn’t have used the phrasing Michelle did.
Maybe you’re being obtuse. Maybe you just are obtuse. Let’s compare the two.
First, in the first word used by Michelle she identified herself as the speaker by using “My”. so even if someone wanted to mimic her as closely as possible—using as many of the same words as possible—they would have to change from the First Person to the Third, i.e., “Michelle” (or she). So we’d have “Michelle’s babies’ daddy”. An equivalent construction for someone who wanted to point to Michelle as the subject and not Obama would be, “Obama’s babies’ mama.” Good so far? so, now we just need to get from that to “Obama baby mama”. Drop the possessive esses and we’re there. And why would they do that? To give the more colloquial urban phrasing. Do I think it is funny? No. Do I think they should have done so? No. Does it inject race into things. I’d say yes. But I do think that Michelle’s statement alone did that, as well. Or can you really see Laura Bush using that phrasing?
B-b-b-but, you say. None of the words are “the same”. And right you are, bubb. But I never said they were. I said they were similar. And if you refuse to see that, I’m afraid you require more assistance that I can offer.
At least you finally admit FOX injected race where it didn’t belong and that it was inappropriate for them to have done so. I do see, however, that you haven’t abandoned your tu quoque rationalization which, as you know, is not only a poor debate debate tactic but, in this case, entirely incorrect. I presume you’re referencing Michelle saying “my babies’ daddy” as her injection of race. If I’m wrong I apologize, but I don’t see to what else you could be referring. If, however, I’m correct, then I’m hopeful you’ll explain why you believe what she said was even tangentially race related, as “my babies’ daddy” is a normal turn of phrase, a little too cutesy for my taste, but something I’ve heard people, regardless of their race, say. Again, if this is where you’re going, you’re asserting an equivalence that doesn’t exist.
“My babies’ daddy” is a black thang? What up?
Me and my babies’ daddy are about to separate (excuse me, that should be my babies’ daddy and I), but no matter what, he will always be my babies’ daddy–and he is a good one. Now that those babies are older, I might start referring to him as my babies’ dad. Or my kids’ dad. Or (if I’m ticked off at him) “their father”.
Me with the skin so white I glow in the dark must be more black than I thought. What up in the ‘hood, bro? I’m feelin’ it, I’m tellin’ you…
What other phrases are “coded” as being black (that is, injecting race) but sound white? Is the word “auntie” suspect? I’ve heard the African American nurses use that one. I use it myself. How about mama? My white southern cousins use mama to refer to the woman who birthed them. Ye gods! I’m on to something!
Does snowstorm have hidden meanings? Is it a code word for the gentrification of a formerly blighted area? I like this upside down game. Instead of looking for coded words from the white community, I’m gonna start looking for secret symbols of blackness present in everyday life…
You’re reaching, magellan, as was said, at least you acknowledge that race was interjected. Mighty white of you. 
It was a minor point I made, but a point nonetheless. The phrasing, while grammatically correct, is not one that I’ve ever heard a white person use. Granted, I don’t watch Jerry Springer.
And you might want to look up “tu quoque”. Whether you like the reasoning or not, what Michelle said was not offered as a tit for tat, but rather that she ventured into a territory that brought race into it. YMMV, obviously.
Interesting. So, if something is grammatically correct then it cannot belong more to black parlance. Now, I’m no expert on black parlance, but I’m pretty good with white parlance, and I have never heard a white person use the phrasing, “my baby’s daddy”. Hmmm, wonder why?
Dr. Laura says “I’m my kid’s mom” about a dozen times every show and seems to expect her callers to do the same.
Perhaps you don’t get out enough. I’ve referred to my kids’ father as such any number of times. It’s not the first phrase to roll off my lips (that would be his name or the more generic title, “their daddy or dad”, but I’ve used it).
That fact and the fact that you’re unfamiliar with it proves nothing one way or another. It was irresponsible of Fox to use yet a different phrase and to claim that is was “outraged liberals” who were doing the “picking on” and Fox was attempting to “defend” Obama’s “baby mama”. The whole thing is so convoluted, I call it fucked unto the Lord. You can call it whatever you want. 