France's Hollande ET disclosure - the only way to avert nuclear and planetary cataclysm?

Great Debates
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Mr Hollande is all but elected as French president. The expectations of a change after nearly decades right-wing presidency are high. How would that affect the world in a broader way?

On the surface of “integration and cooperation”, today we have a much more antagonistic world with old and new powers rising. Russia’s Putin is quite infuriated by NATO defense shield and regional conflicts. He rises to power again, actually he never stepped down all those years. He demonstratively moved ships and bombers to the Caribbean in 2008 after the Georgian war, and literally is ready to shoot at any given moment with missiles unmatched by USA. China and India are not the countries of the 1980s anymore. Each one could pretend for a superpower status with capabilities to destroy the life on the planet (were 200 nukes enough for that?) I will not list all the rising powers that may include countries we haven’t considered as such.

2012 doomsday year is here and now. Still we do not see a Second Sun, Planet X, meteorite rain, or solar burst that burns all electronics. However that cannot be ruled out lightly. We will not be forewarned more than what we’ve got already as warning. It will catch us by surprise one morning/evening.

Where is the place of the ET aliens that reportedly gave the remarkable technology to the USA after WW2? Insiders such as Dr Bassett and others, say many more countries had encounter with the extraterrestrials. The process of Disclosure of that ET presence on Earth and its real everyday applications to our lives, is currently stalled despite 22 years since the end of the Cold War and its secrecy. The expectations of Obama to make the formal Disclosure were high especially in December 2009 when the Norway spiral was witnessed in the night before his Nobel peace prize. Nothing materialized however in the last 3 years.

Will Putin make a disclosure? Russia still has the biggest nuclear arsenal, and probably unknown weapons such as flying pyramids, (did they come from ET too). Unfortunately I see Putin more in the role of the one who will attack the West rather than the one who will offer free energy to the world. Especially if he and the other leaders know well of 2012 planetary doom that is coming anyway…

Could there be someone to offer a viable solution for the 7 bln world population? The extraterrestrials themselves (the benevolent ones) are of course the best option. But they may choose to save only a handful of representatives from each nation to preserve the genes. Not to stop a WW3 that the people have chosen to inflict upon themselves. The ET may not have that mandate from God to interfere in our free will.

Still aren’t there people who would choose differently from the nuclear holocaust, and who would open the underground cities for the mass populations to escape 2012?

The French have proved they are capable of bringing change into the world’s stage. Not only the revolutions in 18 century but also more modern events show France as an island of free thought and idealism, coupled with technological development.

If we go to prophecies, many Catholic prophets from centuries ago till 20th century have predicted the rising of a Great Monarch in France that will rule in peace and prosperity from East to West, before the time of the Antichrist. While I do not know if we are in that time, I take that as a general reference.

Will Mr Hollande bring the so much needed change in Europe and the world? Cold mind analysis show the available options are not that much. With the reluctance of the other big powers to start the change, and posing dangerously close to a new world conflict, it might be exactly France to play the pacifist card once more.

Today it is needed something much more than a good will of a leader. It is needed a special help - from heaven or from space, in terms of superior technology that will make WW3 irrelevant and will change the way of life as we know it. Anything short of that will be not enough in 2012. In one word, the French president has to call the extraterrestrial help, if he is to make all that possible. Or we face the various apocalyptic scenarios that we know very well…

It is so easy - a secret arrangement with representatives of ET races that are already on the planet, then a show in the sky of Paris, then landing anywhere between the Eiffel tower and the Triumphal arc, official meeting infront of the TV cameras…and it is a done deal! France will rise as a world power once more. And much more than that, the world will turn the page of 20th century wars once and for all. USA and Russia will follow with their own disclosures of what the ET have given them. The world will be flooded with ET tech and a viable solution for 2012 cataclysm will be offered to save the lives of 7 bln people. Whether it will be underground cities, or transfers via spaceships/stargates to safe locations outside the planet, is a technical matter that is still to be seen. The important is the good will to call for that space help and to accept it.

I believe the Era of Peace in Fatima should finally come, now in 2012. Or we all die, hoping some 0.001% to escape the radiation and to continue the life afterwards…The choice is ours. Let not blame God afterwards. We have been warned.

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I agree that this is the most likely scenario for France to become a global power again.

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Sorry, what was the question? How should we deal with the fact that ET’s are already here?

By examining whether it’s a fact.

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I think it is ominous that a French president candidate has the name of another nation. I suspect he is a foreign agent. Probably a Dutch plot to revenge Louis the Sun King’s invasion of the Netherlands in the 1670s.

And what self-respecting US citizen would vote for a person called “Canada,” or Canadian citizen vote for a man called “Bernard United States Of America?” In addition Hollande is called George as middle name. Clearly it is not a coincidence that this is also arch-enemy England’s patron saint!

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Meanwhile, tinfoil futures are on the up. Buy Buy Buy!

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Sad but true.

Also: I want a flying pyramid. They sound cool.

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In the words of a renowned Thespian: woah.

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A cuboid would be better - you could prank people into thinking you’re The Borg, or the Vogons.

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Just consider the latest message of Our Lady in Medjugorje to Mirjana. If you have followed these 30+ years apparitions, you know that apart of the 10 secrets the messages circle around common topics. Let ask ourselves why?

Reportedly it is a 3D apparition where the 6 seers can not only see and hear but also touch Our Lady that is physically present. That makes “hologram” and “blue beam” or “haarp” explanations very unlikely for unbiased person even if not a faithful catholic.

Once in the early years the seers said, whoever is alive during the 3rd secret the great sign, will see it…Hei, that means millions will die beforehand! Our Lady does not appear only for the several hundred thousand devote people who wait for the every next message. She does not say these words for everyday church goers mostly old women. She does not give these endless messages for some 10, 000 people who might die in a 9/11 style attack. 9/11 was not forewarned in Medjugorje btw. That means millions will die right from the first events -secrets! That is how I understand it. The 9, 10 secrets are grave. But also the 1,2! The first secret so much speculated, will be a total disaster in a particular place on Earth!

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A pyramid will let you prank people into thinking you’re the Goa’uld.

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If the so-called seers were just liars and frauds pretending to interact with this apparition, how would the evidence differ from what is being seen right now?

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It’s true that their reputation for being lousy tippers is well deserved.

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Yawn. Just another religious delusion, or an outright fraud. There’s no God or gods, no mystic apparitions, and no mystic anything else.

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Why should we believe these apparitions are anything but delusions?

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As far as I know, whether you believe the visions there are authentic or not, we still don’t have any idea what the secrets are supposed to be, other than that the 9th and 10th predict something really bad happening, and that the 7th was also something bad that was going to happen but won’t anymore because everyone prayed for it not to. Why do you say that any of them predict billions dead?

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we’d better believe it because…we go into that time anyway. I posted a thread today a long post about the French elections. The options are very few, and we run out of time. We’d better believe, we lose nothing. Anyway the days are numbered for many, perhaps billions. believe or not.

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Why I suppose millions or billion will die? isn’t it obvious? We are in 2012. There are enough theories how that would happen. Medjugorje, Fatima and Akita are nothing short of that. If they would warn for another 9/11 it already happened. The reality will be terrible. Only in that way I could explain why Our Lady repeats again and again words of repentance that seemingly fall only on the ears of people who already did repent…No she warns everyone. Especially some hi-rank people in religion

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the other option is a population cull in many millions perhaps billions. We have Fatima, Akita, Medjugorje. Everything is already said. Perhaps the French wouldn’t make it to disclosure either, as US presidents didn’t. Surely not Putin or the Chinese.

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Except nothing in any of those prophecies say that any of the predictions have anything to do with this year. They just predict future catastrophes that people should repent to try to keep from happening. There’s nothing to say that Fatima refers to 2012, and not, say, World War 2 (which, I think, is what the Catholic church said the second secret does refer to).

If the secret of Akita refers to anything, why not the 2011 earthquake and tsunami, which happened right near there? That was certainly a catastrophic and horrible event.

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3D always give me eyestrain.