Fred Phelps and Johnny Hildo

[QUOTE=Zoe]
Liberal, wouldn’t Tammy Faye have defended Johnny HIldo? She said that we’ve all been laughed at and misunderstood.
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I don’t think he is misunderstood though.

I should have checked their signs this morning. The death of a celebrity usually brings out a new sign in 24-48 hours. This morning, before services at my church, there was a big clutch of Phelps across the street from us. I kind of cracked the front door to scope them out, but closed it quickly. I should have gone to the windows on the cloister gallery, where I could see better.

Usually the deceased is pictured with a pink triangle on their heads, or horns. Sometimes both.

She co starred on his TV shows. She lived in huge mansions and lived a very wealthy existence. I do not accept she did not smell a rat or two. I do not believe she could have been entirely in the dark.

[QUOTE=cochrane]
I don’t have a problem with Johnny’s freedom to express an opinion (even though I disagree), just that he dropped a deuce in Cafe Society and not here where it belongs. And what the hell, since we’re in the Pit, Johnny needs to be less of a troll and a fuckwit.*

*At least in places where it isn’t called for. Here, he can be a troll and fuckwit all he wants.
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Nay, even here I think he’s pushing it a bit. I mean calling people out cause you’re pissed at them or have something to say is the norm. This guy seems to call everyone who disagrees with him a “cunt”, however and uses that and other words fairly lavishly.

[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]
Nay, even here I think he’s pushing it a bit. I mean calling people out cause you’re pissed at them or have something to say is the norm. This guy seems to call everyone who disagrees with him a “cunt”, however and uses that and other words fairly lavishly.
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Yeah, I know. And I agreed with featherlou (see post #18 ) the Pit is where you take trolls to task and not encourage trollery. Consider my ignorance fought.

[QUOTE=cochrane]
You’re right. Point taken.
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What are you, new? What’s up with all this posting calmly and logically and not getting all bent out of shape? :wink:

[QUOTE=featherlou]
What are you, new? What’s up with all this posting calmly and logically and not getting all bent out of shape? :wink:
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Heh, heh. Yeah, I guess I’m kind of out of place in the Pit. I probably wouldn’t fit in at Great Debates, either. I’m too laid back for either place. :smiley:

I don’t think Tammy FB is worth comparing to Phelps. Phelps is in a different league.

The PTL club certainly took lots of money from poor people, gay or not, which was mostly to enrich Pat and herself.

Scams like the PTL are very ugly.

Bringing up Phelps is a false comparison.

[QUOTE=Liberal]
There was not a judgmental bone in her body.
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Well, except when she was having maritals with Jim, I assume.

[QUOTE=Liberal]
There are two people I know of who are celebrating the death of Tammy Faye Messner.

One of them is Fred Phelps, patriarch of a lunatic religion cult. As soon as his inbred spawn can finish pecking out the words, Freds’s website will declare that Tammy Faye is burning in hell. We all know that Fred is an insane and hate-mongering bigot.

The other is Johnny Hildo, who apparently at some point in time registered here. He dropped this turd in her Cafe Society tribute thread, accusing her of financial fraud. Johnny Hildo, I’m sure, is important to someone somewhere.

Both Fred and Johnny hope that Tammy Faye spends eternity in hell being raped by Satan, but for very different reasons. Fred will say that she was a “fag enabler” and befriended gays when she could have condemned them. Johnny has said she defrauded people.

The difference between them is that Fred Phelps is correct, and Johnny is… misinformed. A grand jury decided that she had no role in Jim Bakker’s PTL scandal. No charges were ever brought against her.

Fred is right. Tammy Faye was an icon in the gay community, and a hero to them. She actively campaigned for the church to open its arms to the people whom she credited with lifting her spirits and giving her hope at a time when others spurned or ridiculed her.

There was not a judgmental bone in her body. She hosted a television talk show with Jim J Bullock and wrote feature articles for XY magazine. Gays, lesbians, and transgendered people flocked to her book signings and gushed about how much they loved her and how much she meant to them.

When she was on Surreal Life with porn star Ron Jeremy, they became best of friends, communicating regularly with one another until her death. Don’t misunderstand me. She never wavered in her faith or in her personal choices, but she never condemned anyone. She poured out her unconditional love to people who, like her, were spurned and rejected by others.

Ron Jeremy wrote of her:

Of all the friends I made on The Surreal Life, I probably had the best connection with Tammy Faye. Which was ironic, because we were the two people nobody expected to get along. She was an evangelist preacher and orthodox Christian, and I was a porn star. Not exactly a match made in heaven. But Tammy and I bonded. She recognized that I wasn’t such a bad guy after all, and though she never approved of my line of work, she respected me and always treated me fairly.Johnny Hildo, the only thing I know about you is that you have less credibility than Fred Phelps.
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OMG, a media whore that makes friends with a porn star! It’s scandalous!

Cuntbag fuck, the woman had a habit of marrying bastard men who get convicted of fraud while she lives the high life. And she’s totally in the dark because she’s hooked on pills and shitting on a gold toilet seat? Poor fuckin clueless Tammy Faye. The shameless cunt knew what she was doing. The greedy bitch and her husband received 10 million dollars a month in revenue in their heyday. Yep, she deserves to be raped in the ass by Satan in Hell if there’s any cosmic justic.

[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]
OMG, a media whore that makes friends with a porn star! It’s scandalous!

Cuntbag fuck, the woman had a habit of marrying bastard men who get convicted of fraud while she lives the high life. And she’s totally in the dark because she’s hooked on pills and shitting on a gold toilet seat? Poor fuckin clueless Tammy Faye. The shameless cunt knew what she was doing. The greedy bitch and her husband received 10 million dollars a month in revenue in their heyday. Yep, she deserves to be raped in the ass by Satan in Hell if there’s any cosmic justic.
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Golly, was she your mother or something? That’s a lot of hate for someone you’ve never met.

I can only hope Satan’s not too exhausted from all the ass-raping the day you find yourself down there.

[QUOTE=gonzomax]
She co starred on his TV shows. She lived in huge mansions and lived a very wealthy existence. I do not accept she did not smell a rat or two. I do not believe she could have been entirely in the dark.
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JH is a jerk, sure, but what **gonzomax ** said. Not being able to get a conviction is one thing. Thinking she had a clear conscience is another. Where exactly did she think the millions came from?

Furthermore, JH’s first comment in that other thread is not necessarily a reference to the PTL fraud. If you can point out to me the nice sharp line between selling salvation and cadging donations, and “bilking”, feel free.

I think someone needs a hug.

[QUOTE=Gengis]
That’s a lot of hate for someone you’ve never met.
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Your first encounter with ol’ Johnny Boy, is it?

He’s got reservoirs of hate most people can’t even imagine.

I am currently listening to Glenn Gould playing the “Goldberg Varitions”

He recorded the same day that he learned that he was gonna die.

His stuff will last…

The media pap of Tammy Faye and Hildo will NOT…
this is how you deal with IDEAS…
FML

[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]
Cuntbag fuck, the woman had a habit of marrying bastard men who get convicted of fraud while she lives the high life. And she’s totally in the dark because she’s hooked on pills and shitting on a gold toilet seat? Poor fuckin clueless Tammy Faye. The shameless cunt knew what she was doing. The greedy bitch and her husband received 10 million dollars a month in revenue in their heyday. Yep, she deserves to be raped in the ass by Satan in Hell if there’s any cosmic justic.
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It’s like a little boy trying out a grown-up mouth.

Johnny Hildo reminds me of a poster on another forum who goes by the name of “Twisted Cable”.

He’s got some issues and when he’s off his meds it’s like… It’s a thing of beauty. The man can use the word “cunt” in so many ways I’d never imagined it. One of the regulars made a “Twisted Cable Post Generator” that randomly takes some of Twisty’s posts and mashes them up into new wonderfulness.

Johnny makes me think he’s been using the generator to inspire his own postings…

http: //www.codehappy.net/poe/cable.cgi (broken URL just in case)

Here’s a sample of the twisty goodness…

[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]
[Tammy Faye] had a habit of marrying … men who get convicted of fraud while she lives the high life. [She] and her husband received 10 million dollars a month in revenue in their heyday.
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Apparently, posting false information is a habit with you. You’re off by an order of magnitude. Ignorant people aren’t supposed to post here. You’re supposed to just read.

Why you came here is clear by now. You want to shit in threads and troll other posters. The only mystery is why you remain. Beloved old timers have been banned for far less.

[QUOTE=Johnny Hildo]
Yep, she deserves to be raped in the ass by Satan in Hell if there’s any cosmic justic.
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If there is cosmic justice, the last thing you should be worrying about is Tammy Faye if you know what I mean and I think you do because face it, we’re all adults here.

[QUOTE=Cervaise]
It’s like a little boy trying out a grown-up mouth.
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I think that’s illegal in most states. :eek: