Huh?
I do give you the benefit of the doubt, and if you read all my replies, you will see I’m telling the truth.
Neurotik,
sorry for doing what I was doing, I just thought it’d be easier for people to see what I was replying to, if I quoted the whole thing.
and TwistofFate: thanks
This is a very common misconception.
Those responding to a controversial claim may, as Anthracite has done, provide evidence to refute it. But by the standards of this board it is always up to the original poster to justify questionable claims when asked to do so. We are under no obligation to “prove you wrong”.
Next time you feel outrage over some localized event, I hope you will not pick a title for your thread that suggests, without justification, that an entire country and its people are to blame.
And spare us the feigned shock that you “touched a nerve”.
Brutus You are a fucking ignorant dipshit.
Firstly the Rainbow Warrior “affair” was an act of terrorism by a GOVERNMENT (yes a government not a terrorist organisation) and it occured in a democratic country that supports free speech. That means Greenpeace was free to be here using our harbour, they were also supported in their no-nuke testing stance by most of the country. Which is why N.Z became the first nuculear free country in the world. So the situation is, a democratic country provides a base for an organisation exercising it’s free speech and a foreign government commits an act of terrorism in the harbour of a country it is “friendly” with. Reguardless of whether you agree with Greenpeaces motives or actions or not, it was an act of terrorism. Imagine the same thing had happened in a U.S harbour!
Secondly, the nuke testing wasn’t in your backyard so we appreciate why it didn’t worry you all that much, but neither N.Z nor Greenpeace expected casualties when docked at a harbour NOT out “fucking” with nuclear tests.
Keep your fucking dipshit opinions to yourself you arsewipe!
it wasn’t shock, it was genuine concern.
As I had posted in previous replies, I was angry because of that article, i wasn’t the most articulate about it (but then again, this is the Pit, not GD), and for that, I am sorry.
I did not post this in order to offend people, and if I have (which is clearly the case), i wish to apologize.
I’ve only ever met up with felloow Dopers once, so i doubt that any of them can vouch for me (as to my character, I mean), unfortunately, but I am, in fact, quite a nice person.
At least I endeavour to be.
No, no, no. Quoting the whole thing is good! You should just end the quotes after every quote, reply, then open the quotes up again, like so:
Wrong!
No, you are.
Etc., etc.
Not really a big deal, it’s just my handle acting up.
As for the misguided remark, I stand by it. You seem(ed) intent on using an isolated incident in one location to try and make blanket assumptions about 300 million people and the general social climate that is occurring over here. Frankly, I hear and heard a lot of this from non-US dopers and when I was living in the UK. I just get tired of it. You don’t understand American society as well as you think you do, and your media doesn’t give an accurate portrayal about it - just like the US media often doesn’t give the best picture of what is going on abroad.
Moreover, Antonius Block included a link showing that there was another American school trying to keep the exchange going. So it’s not widespread, it’s a local incident with a few muttonheads and I suspect that the “can’t guarantee safety” crap was a fig leaf to try and make it sound like the exchange families weren’t the twits that they, in fact, are.
Not only that, but the US is a huge country with lots of people and lots of governments. Extraordinarily stupid crap gets proposed and done a ridiculous number of times every week. For every newspaper to pick up and express outrage about every single little thing instead of writing editorials about the Palestine situation, the budget situation, the tax cuts, etc., etc., etc. would just be moronic.