Fresh from the Sunday paper...what a clusterf*ck...literally

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/dekalb/stories/0129paulk.html

And the moral of this story is…don’t raise your daughters to be so fucking brain-dead and obedient that they end up coerced into 14 year extra-marital sexual affairs with their Bishop in order to “save the world”. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

My favorite part…when Mr. Brewer’s fist takes turns with the faces of Earl Paulk and his brother, Don Paulk, who had both previously taken turns fucking Mrs. Brewer. :wally

I mean really. Have these women no brains at all in their heads? :rolleyes:

Fuck me for Jesus baby. Fuck me for jesus.

As a person who firmly and devoutly believes that all clergy are blood-sucking parasites battened on the ass of humanity, this surprises me not in the least.

You can honor and respect another person, but when you put all your faith into them and abdicate thinking for yourself this is what you get. Televangelists, Faith Healers, and Hitler. They shoult teach a class in reasoned skepticism in highschool.

Oh my lord!

I’ve been to that church before. My aunt and uncle–who live in Indiana–watched this guy on cable TV, so naturally they wanted to see him in person when they visited Atlanta. I was roped into accompanying them. Now, I grew up in the churchiest of churches, but this church definitely put the “mega” in megachurch. Huge sanctuary. Diverse, energetic crowd. Jazzy-poppy gospel band with a full choir. Little girl in the aisle shaking a tamborine. Teenagers doing interpretative dances during the songs. Non-descript sermon. The full nine yards.

As we walked out, Paulk stood at the door to shake everyone’s hands. Since we had big VISITOR stickers on, he paid special attention to us. Somebody handed me a little hardcover book, which I still have. Top Twenty Questions You Should Ask Your Pastor, or something like that. Read it in a day. Disagreed with most of it. Although the day wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be, I still got skeeved out by the whole thing (but to be fair, I’m always skeeved out by church). But as least my aunt and uncle had a good time.

It took us forever to get out of the parking lot, I remember.

This church is right down the street from where I grew up and used to live. I went to kindergarden and grades 1 and 2 at their school. I’m not that surprised that there is another scandal involving Paulk, most of the people I know are still making fun of him from the last scandal.

Dang. Did anybody else look at the picture of Bishop Paulk and wonder why the Atlanta Journal Constitution was using publicity stills from Dragnet?

Another thing I just don’t get about this story. The jackass and his family “leave Hemphill under a cloud of scandal” in 1960, due to yet another extramarital affair issue, but the end up just across town where he starts a new church? :dubious: That sounds more like square dancing than “leaving”.

Don’t these people talk to each other or communicate amongst their “communities of worship” or whathaveyou? Isn’t there any sort of due diligence or even the vaguest exploration of someone’s background prior to letting them start a new church? Aren’t people even remotely curious about the pasts of people that they trust with their theological guidance and the future fate of their souls for all eternity?

As I was telling my husband about this story he replied:

“stupidity, gullibility and manipulation are what churches are built on, Amen”

Oh damn, that’s hot.

Can I use that as a sig line…

… in the bedroom?

Thanks,
threemae

From the article linked in the OP:

Do we really have people this stupid in America in the 21st Century?!

From the people that brought us creationism and Itelligent Design? You really need to ask?

Well, technically that was during the 20th century.

:rolleyes:

You know, I’ve never had a particular reason to dislike you, Chefguy. But that crosses well over the line.

A dear friend of mine – we’ll call her Jennifer – was about to graduate from seminary. We’d been meeting each other for dinner every couple of weeks or so, chatting online, all the like. She never pushed her religion on me, never tried to make me anything I wasn’t. She just lived by example, and for a person like her that was more than enough.

It was her last night in town – she was packed up and ready to move – when we were going to meet at a restaurant for a little farewell dinner. I got to the restaurant and waited… and waited, and waited for her to show up. There was no sign of her for about forty-five minutes, and as I was on a lunch hour, I picked up and went back to work.

I got a call about thirty minutes later from the hospital downtown. Jennifer had been in a car accident. By some miracle she survived the impact of a drunk driver in a Suburban T-boning her little Saturn sedan. The impact was on the driver’s side. She broke a leg, but we were just glad to have her in one piece.

I visited her in the hospital the next day and heard the news about the proceedings. The driver who hit her reported the damage to her insurance company but not the injuries to Jennifer or the fact that she’d been intoxicated.

“She’s ashamed,” I said. “And afraid.” I couldn’t help feeling disgust.

“I know,” said Jennifer. She looked troubled. “I wish I could talk to her – help her. She must be going through a terrible time right now.”

Jennifer said this from her hospital bed, all worry and anxiety over someone who nearly killed her by their own gross neglicence and stupidity. She was more concerned over their mental wellbeing than she was over her own physical troubles.

Isn’t it possible – just possible – that some people enter the clergy because they seriously want to help people? Does this prejudice of yours only apply to Christians, or do rabbis fall under the swathe of your broad brush? Do Buddhist monks and nuns? The Dalai Lama? All ticks on humanity’s ass?

After hearing about things like this bishop I get physically ill. So do the clergypeople I’ve known. I know some people join the clergy so they can have an entire pack of wide-eyed followers ready to be led into whatever swamp the unscrupulous bastard fancies. I know some people who do it for the tax break. I know some people who will follow anything their clergy says. A man I once had tremendous respect for actually said the words “Vote for X! She goes to my church, so she HAS to be good.”

But damning every single member of a very large community that many people join specifically so they can help people and make their lives better? You can’t be that ignorant.

You can just imagine the conversation when the two women compared notes…

Mona: and then he told me it was the staff of life!

Cindy: Bastard! All those years on my knees-he told me it was Gabriel’s Horn!

:eek: :cool: :smiley: :eek: :cool: :smiley:

I’m an atheist who dislikes churches as a broad rule and in some ways I agree with the general sentiment you express. Indeed if you’d said “some” or even “a significant percentage” instead of "all, I’d agree with you wholeheartedly.

But you’re being grossly unfair to some clergy. I’ve met some who were humble, kind, generous people who give far more back to humanity than most of us and certainly more than humanity gives to them.

This man makes me sick to my stomach. I’d love to give him and his brother a few punches too, only not in the face.

I believe that this most important freedom anyone will ever have, bigger even than the freedom of speech or religion, is the freedom to choose. Rapists and brainwashers take away that right from a person. By force, a rapist perverts love and denies someone the choice to fight or to walk away. By perverting words, a brainwasher denies someone any choice by making it seem like what the brainwasher suggests is the only option the victim has.

It sickens me to know that people will rob someone of the right of choice. :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

Not meaning to be overly critical here, but your comment does smack (a little bit) of blaming the victim. Personally, from what I read of the article, the woman in question had a “somewhat” similar trusting relationship to the Bishop that a student does with a teacher. Yes, she was an adult, but she was also an adult who was exploited and whose trust was manipulated in the same way that a lecherous teacher would manipulate a student for sexual gratification.

Who is our president?

Oh, fuck it, clergy in general are parasites. There may be a few nice ones out there, but really, the game is NOT worth the candle. Chefguy’s close enough to the truth to give him a pass.