''Friends Don't Let Friends Drive Drunk''

I’m not a very social person, but I decided to be a little brave last night and attended a corporate Christmas party at a restaurant/bar. Everyone there was drinking, including my boss. Me, I’ve been drunk twice in my life, and the second time put me off being drunk pretty much forever. So every one or two months or so, I’ll have a single glass of alcohol and because I’m such a lightweight, I’m usually buzzed and sometimes even a little tipsy. Yes, friend, I am what they call A Cheap Date. Because I live an hour away from this restaurant/bar and had driven myself, I chose not to drink. I was pretty much the only person at that party who made that choice. MOST people chose to drink responsibly.

After the restaurant/bar stuff, around, say 11pm, everyone decided to move to another bar where there was dancing. I was having a phenomenal time discussing U.S. foreign policy and racism and the acquisition of language with a couple of my coworkers, and though I am NOT a bar person, I decided to just let loose and go. I’ve been pretty lonely not knowing many people around my neighborhood, so it was refreshing just to make new friends.

My first mistake was not taking my car with me to the bar. I was having so much fun talking to my new friends I piled into another car with two of them, one, Smashed, who was completely drunk, and another, Alert, who seemed a little tipsy but said she felt okay to drive. At first I accepted this, but once we got lost (our only navigator was Smashed) I asked Alert if she would humor me and let me drive. (And I am reminding you now: I did not drink a single drop of alcohol throughout this entire evening.) Alert verified that I was truly feeling uncomfortable and told me, ‘‘I want you to know that I wouldn’t drive if I didn’t feel safe to do so, but I do not under any circumstances want anyone to feel uncomfortable in my car.’’ So she got out and gave me the wheel. She is my new Best Friend.

Cue to the bar, which was actually a hip-hop dance club in suburban Detroit, and sort of sucked. It was 10x louder than the restaurant and I realized there was to be no more inspired dialog. I hadn’t even planned on going out that day and I’d gone straight from work to the party, so I was dressed in a not sexy oversized sweater and felt a bit out of place. But I danced up a storm anyways because I freakin’ love to dance. That part was fun. About an hour later, I said to Alert (who had to get home the next morning) that it was probably time we get back to our respective homes (we both lived an hour away, pretty much in the same city, and she had to get up in the morning.) It was about 1am.

So we found Smashed, who had continued drinking throughout the night, and told her we were heading out. She had been saying throughout the evening that our other coworker Jokester was going to take her home with her and she would sleep over there. Well, we’re all standing outside saying goodbye and Jokester takes a look at Smashed and says, ‘‘I’m not playing babysitter tonight. I don’t want her to come home with me.’’ This should have been my first clue.

So, not really knowing what to do (and being, btw, in an area I am completely not familiar with somewhere in some suburb of Detroit), we piled back into Alert’s car to return to the restaurant and pick up our cars. Alert had not had anything more to drink since arriving at the club and she was almost completely sober, so I let her drive. Mostly we were just trying to figure out what to do about Smashed, because she was insisting that she was going to just drive home and not to worry about her.

So we got back to the restaurant parking lot, offered her a ride home, and she refused it. We tried to convince her not to drive and trying to convince an extraordinarily drunk person not to drive is one of the most frustrating things in the world, ever. Smashed fell on her face trying to get her crap out of the car, at which point me and Alert, who really were NOT in the mood for a roundtrip hour out of our way, decided we had to make an even more valiant effort.

So I effectively removed (with some coaxing and pushing) Smashed from behind the wheel of her car, and took the driver’s wheel. Alert was to follow me in her car and Smashed was to give us directions to her house because neither of us knew where we were. Then, Alert was to drive me back to my car. It took at least a half an hour to convince Smashed this was the best idea, and she was still complaining and protesting the whole way there.

Let the record show that I avoid going out drinking for a reason, and this is a very big one.

So we get onto the highway, and Smashed car is nightmarish for seeing at night (high dashboard and it was raining/misting) so I wasn’t really loving my visibility, but I figured anything’s gotta be safer than letting Smashed drive. She kept giving me the wrong directions in an effort to get me to turn around and go back to her car so she could drive herself home. Finally she got me in the far right lane and said, ‘‘stay in this lane for ten minutes and you’ll be fine.’’

About three minutes into the drive, Smashed fell asleep. At which point I came upon a major highway junction. I poked her awake and asked her which way to go. So she basically made up some complete Bullshit and I listened and we ended up not in the right place, and not one of us knew where we were. At this point, while I am trying to get her to think about how to get us home, Smashed asked, ‘‘Are we in my car?’’

Finally I pulled over into the parking lot of a bank to try to get a grip and communicate with Alert I had no idea where the hell we were. And I’m going to be really honest with you – I was seriously pissed off at this point. I don’t understand what is so hard to grasp about making arrangements to not drive drunk. It is not a difficult thing to do. This woman, Smashed, is 30 years old (I am 24.) I personally do not mind if someone says to me, ‘‘I’m really drunk. Can you give me a ride home?’’ What I DO mind is wasting an hour or more of my time trying to convince some asshole they are too drunk to drive.

So given that there was nobody around at all, we were pretty much sitting in an empty bank parking lot in the middle of God-knows-where, I called my husband at home and attempted to get him to mapquest our whereabouts. While I am talking to my husband, Smashed pulls down her pants and pisses in the middle of the bank parking lot.

We had no idea where we were, we had no idea where Smashed lived, and we were far from our homes. At what point do Friends Not Let Friends Drive Drunk, and at what point do people have to take some fucking responsibility for themselves and their own decisions?

Because me and Alert took one look at each other and realized we’d had it. I don’t know if we had some kind of moral responsibility to physically restrain her and sleep in her car with her, but we ended up just leaving and going back to the restaurant, leaving her with her car. That’s what she insisted we should do anyways, and short of putting her up in a hotel or calling the police I was out of ideas.

Now I’m just pissed. I’m pissed because I had a bad experience with Smashed, who I really like as a person, and I’m pissed because of her irresponsibility I was put in a position where I did something I don’t feel good about (leaving her there.) I’m pissed at myself for not following my gut instinct and taking my own car to the bar. I have so little experience with these kinds of situations that I admit I made some errors in judgment. I really want to feel guilty about this (it’s my favorite hobby), but ultimately it was her fucking drunk ass driving drunk.

Kind of a shitty end to an otherwise fun night. I got home at 3am and was pretty grouchy and tired by that point.

So should I have called the police or what?

No, I would not have called the police - and in my old days I would have simply called a cab and been done with it. I don’t drink anymore, so not so much of a problem now, but the situation you describe is similar to people (like you) who do not have a lot of experience being assertive - not that that is a bad thing at all - I’m just saying I would have taken my own car and been straight up with Smashed.
That being said, when people are smashed they tend to do dumb things, and obviously smashed was living up to her state of mind. It doesn’t make her any less of a good human being, it just makes her unable say no to more alcohol.
She was drunk, plain and simple, and quite honestly when people are that drunk they are not in control. You had every right to be pissed at the situation and I would bring it up to Smashed and let her know how you felt. But trying to reason with someone who is that smashed is an exercise in futility.
You are such an honest and open person Olives, but you cannot expect everyone to be as honest with themselves as you are. I’m not saying that was what you were doing, but it sounds like that may have been part of it. :slight_smile: Good on you for being responsible and getting home safe.

:smack: Never even occurred to me.

Thanks for the encouragement, anyways. I don’t want the experience to put me off going out with my coworkers, but we’re going to have to have some action plan before the drinking even starts. I do want to be friends with Smashed, and I’m not likely to hold any sort of grudge, but that doesn’t mean I am willing to go through that all over again.

If it was only her life that was at stake, it wouldn’t matter, but drunk drivers are also endangering the lives of everyone else on the road. Calling the police is a last resort but it has to be done if there is no other way to prevent a person from driving trashed.

There are ways you could have avoided getting to that point, of course. I’m also someone who rarely drinks and I’ve learned a few things about going out with friends who do:

  1. Always bring your own car everywhere. never put yourself in the position of relying on someone else for a ride or from being able to split and go home at a moment’s notice.

  2. Don’t rely on drunk people for directions if you’re driving them home. First, get their address from them (make them show you their drivers license if you have to), then either call a cab or mapquest the address (call someone to do it for you if necessary) before you leave. Stick to the directions and ignore all the drunk person’s “corrections” or advice about “shortcuts.”

  3. Drive them in your own car. It might be inconvenient for them to get back to their rides the next day but that’s a natural consequence of their own bad decisions and not your problem.

  4. If all else fails, call the police. You might feel bad about it but think about how much worse you would feel if you found out they T-boned a bus full of toddlers on the way home.

First off: GOOD ON YOU!! You showed admirable self-control and a very intelligent, adult way of thinking (I’m more than twice your age, I can say that :smiley: ).

I would have dug out her wallet, gotten some money out of it and her address off her driver’s license, then called a cab to take her home. And I would have put a note in her purse that said your car is parked in the bank lot at such and such an address.

I would have also gotten her home phone number and called her about 0900 the next morning to check on her. I would have done that knowing that the ringing of the phone would have been agonizing to her hangover, but she deserved it.

No good deed goes unpunished.
Olives, you did a good thing and you’ve learned from it. Next time the cab solution is usually the best bet.

I have called plenty of cabs for plenty of drunk people and never have I had one of them call me the next day to say - Eff you for calling a damn cab, I could have driven home on my own.
They may have been very angry when I put them in the cab, but waking up alive has a tendency to put some perspective on situations like this. Again, you did the right thing.

I would have told Smashed flat out if she got behind the wheel that I was calling the police. Then I would have poured her into a cab and called it a night.

But I am RABID about not drinking and driving.

Good try - it’s not an easy fight. In the future you may want to suggest to your boss that they arrange everyone to leave their cars at home and get taxis. It’s a pain in the ass and people should be grown up, but so many people are not and drunk drivers are a terrible risk to everyone on the road.

Goth Version–“Friends don’t let friends dress like The Crow™.” :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

There was a billboard I saw several years ago: a car fully engulfed in flames. ‘Toast a friend lately? (Don’t drink and drive)’

Word. The creepiest thing about the whole experience is realizing how many damn people drive drunk. I saw so many people at that bar who were wasted and you know a lot of them were going to drive home later. Coming home, I began to feel like I was the only sober person around. shudder

Excellent advice; I really appreciate it. These guidelines are going to help me avoid anything like this from happening again.

Dio’s advice is very good. The other thing is that since you are driving them in your own car, if they have reached the vomiting drunk stage, a cab may be a better option. 'Course cabs are really expensive, but so is getting the vomit smell out of your own car. The third option that doesn’t involve the police is to put them in the cheapest hotel room in the area.

Isn’t being social fun?
…bah.

Yeah. clearly I should have bombarded her with bacon salt and hot sauce… and then closed my eyes and drawn a picture of the result, and posted a picture of it with my cameraphone on the Straight Dope. That would have been way more fun. :wink:

Say…that sounds like the makings of a Dopefest…

Back in the day, I drove home a fair number of sloshed individuals with a sober friend following either in my car or their car. One of the girls I was driving home (with a friend following us driving my car) had moved to a new apartment a couple of months previously and was so plastered she said she couldn’t remember where she lived.

She burst out crying, saying over and over she couldn’t remember, should she call someone, why couldn’t she remember her address - I pulled open her glove compartment, pulled out the stuff in there and came upon an insurance company envelope; auto insurer had sent her a letter for renewal of her insurance policy and it had a recent date on it. I asked her if that address and apartment number sounded familiar, and she said yes.

Walked her up to that apartment when we arrived and her keys worked, so all’s well that ends well. :slight_smile: I was tempted to take her car keys back with me and just leave her with the house keys, while leaving a note that she could call me in the morning to get the car keys back, (wanted to make sure she didn’t just head right back out in her car in that drunken state) but she made a beeline for the bathroom, took a piss with the door open, came out stark naked and made a beeline for her bed.

Oookay, sez sober friend to me. We looked at each other, left the keys on the kitchen table and locked the door from the inside before backing out of there.

I specifically remember when taking my “Defensive Driving” certification to be able to drive state vehicles, and again when taking the 15 passenger endorsement, a statistic they posted was that from midnight to 6 AM on Saturday and Sunday, 4 out of 5 drivers on the road are under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Kinda scary!

Makes me miss my college town, where most of us rode our bikes or walked to the bar, because it was never further than a couple miles. Heck, quite a few of my friends lived within a quarter mile. I remember once getting too drunk to bike home (I couldn’t even make it out of the parking lot), and the cops loaded my bike in their car and drove me home.

Ugh I’m so sorry that happened to you. I feel like everyone has to go through that situation a few times. It’s the worst.

I had a friend we called Guzzles who I had to dig out of some bushes one time at a party. I only found her by calling her phone and following the sound of the ring. I borrow a friend’s monster SUBURBAN to drive her home. She pukes all over the place in the car. I barely knew the car’s owner so I felt bad and stopped at a gas station and cleaned out the puke myself with another friend while Guzzles just laid on the ground. I was pretty drunk myself by the way. I took her back to my house and put her out on the balcony. It was up on the second floor so we just locked her out so she couldn’t puke all over anything else but herself. Second friend said she needed water and I for some reason took that to mean she needed water to clean the puke off her shirt and hair so I put the hose on her like a circus elephant.

I just left her locked out on the balcony overnight and got her in the morning. I don’t know if she even noticed. I’m missing the mom gene so that’s what happens if you get incapacitated in my presence. You get a no nonsense hosedown and locked outside. It’s the most compassion I can muster. I didn’t let her drive though.

:eek: That’s insane. And really scary.

Is that surprising? What the heck else are people doing between midnight and 6 am if they aren’t at a bar or club?

Clearly you don’t go out drinking that much. It’s the quickest and easiest way to get rid of an unpleasent drunk.

Only if you don’t mind being known as a dick by everyone you know.
As a general rule, those of us who DO enjoy drinking would prefer to avoid drinking with sloppy drunks like your friend Smashed if it’s a consistent behavior. Sloppy drunks do stupid things like drink and drive, cause fights, wander off, throw up and get you thrown out of the bar. On the other hand, it does happen to everyone from time to time.