From Doctor Who to Doctor...Who?

“What a wonderful butler. He’s so violent!”

Like others, I used to watch Old Who on PBS back in the day. I loved it, but yeah, it’s probably not to everyone’s taste these days.

Now I’m sad, following those links and finding out that The Star Hustler is dead! :frowning:

Oh, Jack Horkheimer was great (although “Jack Horkheimer, Star Hustler” as a title sounds like it belongs in the “Check It Out With Dr. Steve Brule” category of shows). Entertaining and educational - yes. High production values - not so much.

My wife’s first reaction was< “Wait - didn’t the other gut just start? Crap, I am behind.”

Her second reaction was, “This’ll be interesting.”

Lots of planets have a north.

*Since the first Doctor regenerated back in 1966, the concept of the Doctor as a constantly evolving being has been central to the programme. The continual input of fresh ideas and new voices across the cast and the writing and production teams has been key to the longevity of the series.

The Doctor is an alien from the planet Gallifrey and it has been established in the show that Time Lords can switch gender.

As the Controller of BBC Drama has said, Jodie is not just a talented actor but she has a bold and brilliant vision for her Doctor. She aced it in her audition both technically and with the powerful female life force she brings to the role. She is destined to be an utterly iconic Doctor.

We hope viewers will enjoy what we have in store for the continuation of the story.*

I don’t mind the gender change. I just hope she fills the role well, and carries on what is core to what the doctor is. “Never cruel, never cowardly…”

I am more upset about the change at all, as I was really getting to like capaldi, even after a bit of a rocky start, IMHO, and will miss him, as well as a bit of concern about new docs in general, as I wasn’t a huge fan of the matt smith era. Not saying that I am against it, just that I will miss capaldi, as I still miss tenant, as the Doctor.

Staying male would have been more of a statement than a gender transition, anyway. It’s well established that they can change genders in regeneration, and that the resulting gender is not necessarily under the control of the regeneree, so a thirteenth male in a row would have been statistically unlikely, just the fact that he went through his first set of natural regens without ever changing gender.

So, quick question as to etiquette. I am aware that if I am speaking of a real person who has transitioned, I should refer to them in the past as their current gender. M to F transition should be referred to as a “her”, even if talking about the time before transition. Is that a similar etiquette when talking about regenerating aliens, do we refer to the Tom Baker years as “her” as well, or do Time Lords look at it differently?

When the Doctor was talking about the Corsair in The Doctor’s Wife, he referred to them as him or her as appropriate for a given regeneration.

‘The mark of the Corsair. Fantastic bloke. He had that snake as a tattoo in every regeneration. Didn’t feel like himself unless he had the tattoo. Or herself, a couple of times. Ooo, she was a bad girl.’

See, the problem I have with that is not that the Corsair switched genders, but that there was another swashbuckling Time Lord out having space adventures. It kind of dilutes the Doctor and the Master if every Time Lord on a gap year from the Academy. borrows his/her Dad’s/Mum’s Tardis, awards him/herself a soubriquet like the Outsider and ponces about the galaxy gushing that it’s so authentic.

I do support this casting decision, but it’s curious that the BBC announced this in the same week that the long awaited pay grades of top BBC talent was announced revealng a massive gender pay gap…

Watched Attack the Block last night. The Japanese subtitles didn’t make the dialogue any easier to understand, but I could understand her and she was good.

I’ve seen Attack the Block, but I don’t remember her. I barely remember the movie though. I’m watching Broadchurch now, just started season 3. The more I watch the more excited I get.

I’m not a Whovian maniac or anything. I adore time travel stuff, and I’ve watched the show sporadically over the years. Mostly I just love River Song. I have every single River Song episode, and I am crossing everything twice that they bring her back somehow to interact with Jodie’s, Doctor.

It could possibly happen because River has said she had a wife, before. What if that wife was also the Doctor? I’m not fluent enough in the show to understand how the timelines work, and if there is anything trackable that would say this was impossible. But I think it would be so, so cool!!!

Don’t be absurd. Washington won’t be female for at least another 6 regenerations.

Although perhaps there’s some subtle yet important distinction between the Revolutionary War and Doctor Who, which your analogy fails to capture.

“Powerful female life force”? WTF, BBC? Does the person who wrote this realize that the actor* is not, in fact, a regenerating alien being? I mean, I’m looking forward to see what new approaches this new Doctor will bring to the role but someone got a little carried away in drafting this statement.

  • use of the word “actor” rather than “actress” noted and copied.

She was the woman.

(Not as flippant as it sounds–she was the only significant character that wasn’t one of the teenage gangstas.)

It probably shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s seen how much sexism there is on social media.

Well, (speaking of Doctor Who alums) there was Nick Frost…

It always amuses me when someone has a problem with something that’s been a part of the show for more than 50 years and acts like it’s a new, bad decision. The first Doctor had to deal with The Monk, another renegade time lord who picked a name and started cavorting around the galaxy, in a story that aired in 1965. And that’s not the only one, The War Chief, The Rani, and Drax were all knocking around in their own TARDISes back before the turn of 1980. You may as well have a problem with the TARDIS’s chameleon circuit not working, other Time Lords running around has been established for about as long as the show has existed.

Don’t forget K’anpo, who exiled himself to Earth.

Yeah. But only knowing her from the new intro clip it took me a while of watching to come to the realization that that was her as she was the only female main character showing up. Really? That is the next Doctor?

She played that character fine but I sure hope she brings some new game than that to her Doctor. I am nervous about every Doctor transition and so far see no reason not to be nervous about this one. And yeah that "powerful female life force " line worries me. If the writers are writing to some “powerful female life force” stereotype/trope they have rather than writing to the key personality elements of The Doctor who happens to be in the form of a 35 year old woman this time, then they will fail the show. She needs to bring a strong egotistical anti-authoritarian irreverent stubborn arrogant compassionate often socially off in some way and very alien character who can whip out a good one-liner or two as the central aspects … not a “powerful female life force.”

Pretty sure the people writing press copy for the BBC aren’t the same people writing scripts for the show.