As long as people recognize that San Francisco is NOT the bastion of tolerance and progressivity that they proclaim to be, I’m all good.
Not directed at you personally, but STOP THE HYPOCRASY!
I agree. Anyone who calls themselves tolerant and then exhibits intolerant behavior should be called on it. I just don’t agree that an entire city of over 750,000 people is hypocritical just because some of the supes are.
While I agree that the SF city officials should allow peaceful assemblies even of groups that they disagree with politically without publicly insulting them, I doubt that there’s anything particularly “hypocritical” about calling the Christian youth rally’s organizers “anti-gay” and “anti-choice”. They don’t seem like the type to support abortion rights or equal rights for gays.
They’re city councilmen. What ever gave you the impression that anybody listens to them?
Let’s see. These guys staged this concert, the audience of which was almost entirely from outside the area, particularly to stick it to the sinners in SF. (I saw some of the attendees interviewed on the local news.) The Supes in no way put any blockage on the concert, but only passed a resolution. Too much for the poor, oppressed, gay baiters, obviously.
Mind telling me where there was religious bigotry in the resolution? Were the participants not anti-gay and anti-choice? Do you claim that if you aren’t you can’t be religious? I’m an atheist, yet I know that most religious people are not bigoted scum. You should stop insulting religion.
Freedom of speech and assembly means let them have their concert. It doesn’t mean you can’t call them what they are. Or is that too politically incorrect for you?
Data point: I lived in a dorm at Cornell in 2000-1, and we were not told any such thing. If it was in the ‘rulebook’, which I don’t recall being the case but would not swear to, it was not stressed. As I’m Jewish (posting on a Saturday afternoon though I might be), I didn’t put up any decorations, but my roommates did. Nothing was made of it.
Whilst I’m defending my school’s honour, I’d also like to point out that ‘all those students’ is actually, well, at most one or two a year, and that a lot of people who are found dead in the gorge are either not students or (in at least one case I know of personally) fall by accident while intoxicated.
But if one does go for it, as a method of suicide it is unfortunately pretty damn effective. 
I don’t speak for anyone but myself, but my take is that they still base their religious calendar on the Julian (not the Gregorian) calendar. Is that supposed to imply some offense? Not sure I understand your question.
You’ve gotta be fucking kidding me.
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The organization in question counts Falwell and Robertson, among others, in their leadership (cite - 1.5MB PDF). Both of those assholes are objective “anti-choice” and “anti-gay.”
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In my town, just about every Christmas, the KKK puts up a display in the town square. And just about every Christmas, City Council passes a resolution condemning the Klan for its racism, bigotry, etc. Would you therefore argue that the people of Cincinnati are waging a war against white people? Because if they are, I’d better get the fuck outta town.
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You do understand the difference between saying “Updike is an idiot, and I think he needs to shut his mouth,” and actually coming over to your house with some duct tape, don’t you?
One is merely a suggestion, and the other is a delightful fantasy topfull and brimming with heartwarming catharsis?
Both of which are highly satisfactory.
Whatever, dude. I just thought it was ironic that they would pass a resolution condemning a Christian youth rally, while refering to themselves as the “America’s most tolerant and progressive city”.
I guess there are none so blind, as those who will not see.
It’s been circling round the intraweb, from Bill Maher: many conservative Christians are today turning water into whine.
If you’d like to expand on the idea further, try to pry those nails from your wrists and come over to the thread I just started in GD:
What’s intolerant about their stance, anyway? They didn’t try to prevent or impede the rally in anyway, they just stated that they didn’t approve of the group’s goals and ideals. Letting people do things you don’t like is the precise definition of “tolerance.”
There is no more war on christians. Billy O’Reilly admitted it yesterday in an interview. No one’s being oppressed by screaming hordes of God haters anymore.
Cite?
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603310010
linkies are here:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200603310010
http://mediamatters.org/static/audio/oreilly-20060329-evan.mp3
I swear to Og, O’Reilly’s so-called No-Spin Zone keeps MY head spinning. He can go from raving lunatic (see “War on Christmas”) to actually sounding reasonable (see above) with no discernable turnaround period…
The whole point of voting is to select the people who make the laws. You are thus making a distinction without a difference.
That said, the point of having a constitutional republic rather than a democracy is that certain issues are removed from the whim of the majority. The two wolves and the lamb might vote one what to have for lunch, but veal is not on the menu. If your concern is that the current balance allows too many powers to the majority and too few areas where individuals are insulated from political authority, I completely agree.