fuck the gloved one

Haven’t most kids seen Spielberg’s ET?

No, he didn’t.

Heh. “…but you fuck one goat…”

This is the most ridiculous point yet. Who would you let your kids sleep with? Are all the people that you would say “no” to pedophiles? Do you see the faulty logic here?

It was more like “uh uh uh uh uh splort splort ahhh - Jesus, woman, how do you expect to have an informed opinion if you don’t pay attention to the issues?”

He was guilty too. Payement is an admission of guilt, just like I said.

The point was not that you won’t do it, therefore MJ won’t do it. What I was attempting to do was illustrate that NOBODY would be willing to do that.

Not in the eyes of the law.

ETA: How do you know he was guilty? Because he settled? That’s ridiculous.

Think about it a little further. What normal person would ASK? Wouldn’t you be skeeved by the mere request?

Can you name a single other adult you’ve ever heard of who routinely sleeps Innocently with other people’s kids?

So?

So you have no idea if he is guilty or not. Concluding guilt because he settled is mere opinion.

It’s pretty obvious he was guilty. You don’t pay people off for stuff like that if you didn’t do it.

ETA yes, of course it’s my opinion, so what? I’m totally right.

This is completely Devil’s Advocate (I believe Jackson was a pedophile): Innocent people have been accused of, convicted of, and done time in prison for child molestation. There was a series of false accusations aided by poorly trained social workers who asked children leading questions and browbeat them into changing their story from “nothing happened” to fantastical ones of rape, satanic rituals and murder.

On the other hand, the stuff Jackson was accused of were long after the McMartin and Kern County cases and after social workers and police were properly trained.

Why not? Many times, it is cheaper.

ETA: In my opinion, you are totally wrong.

It would not have cost Michael Jackson $20 million to defend himself in a criminal trial, but it’s not about saving money anyway. If you’re innocent of something like that, you defend yourself to your dying breath.

How did that kid know what his cock looked like?

Why was the LAPD convinced he was guilty?

I agree with Fear. It seems odd that you are so convinced by such scant evidence.

How do we know the kid was right? Have you seen Jacko’s cock?

I’m familiar with the McMartin travesty, as well as the witch hunt atmosphere of that entire era. I don’t think the evidence or the plausibility of the charges is comparable to MJ, though.

$25 million buys a lot of lawyer time. OJ Simpson spent between three and six million for his “Dream Team” and they managed to successfully get him off for a pair of murders that few sane people doubt he committed. Jackson did not behave like an innocent man wrongly accused - he behaved like a pedophile who believed that what he did wasn’t wrong.

The cops and the prosecutors did. They took pictures of it. The kid had accurately described the vitiligo splotches on it. Not something he’d have been likely to guess about. Reportedly, it was one of the things which most convinced the prosecutors, and the thing that made Jacko decide to pay him off.