Fuck the office rumor telephone game! And fuck my unfounded gut feelings!

OK so this is the background: apparently there are going to be layoffs where I work (large company) - around 200 people worldwide. So one of my co-workers tells me her cousin who works in accounting says she knows it’s going to happen, but not when. Another co-worker tells me a reliable source heard from a reliable source they’d be laying off 50 people a week, starting today (they always do layoffs on Fridays, first thing in the morning).

Now, were there to be layoffs in my (rather small) group, my manager would have to do a Sophie’s Choice kind of thing and decide who would have to go, then report back to whoever. She could go the seniority route, in which case I’d be safe, or she could base her decision on who’s needed and who’s become redundant.

Over the past few months, at my manager’s request, I spearheaded a major project, on my own, and she’s had nothing but praise for my work. However, she knows I’m depressive (although I feel great now), and that could mean for an unreliable worker. I’ve made it clear to her that when things aren’t going well for me, I make a huge effort to not let it interfere with my work; in fact, getting caught up in work actually helps me get my mind off things. Then I go and break a rib and take two and a half days off to recuperate, and come back a zombie doped up on painkillers. Maybe that makes me unreliable - taking sick days, albeit with a medical certificate. Or maybe it’s because I missed a couple of deadlines a few weeks ago, but made up for it all within a day.

(Can you see my train of paranoid thought, here?)

So, yesterday, I’m starting to think, maybe it’s me who’s going to go tomorrow. Given what’s needed of me and other factors, I tell myself, if she asks me to do two certain things: put my style guide on the server (presumably so that others can access it when I get canned) and to see her first thing Friday morning (she said it was to go over her edits of a long, detailed chapter I wrote … but maybe she wanted to see me first thing in the morning to can me). Finally 5:00 rolls around, and she asks me to do both.

I start freaking. The gut feeling I had got worse. I have anxiety/panic disorder that sometimes makes me paranoid, but in the past, gut feelings of mine have often been founded, and I’ve been right in the end.

For example, the last time a guy dumped me, I got an email the day of that just screamed to me: he’s going to dump you. I consulted with my faghag at work, who told me I was reading too much into it, but I just knew. He dumped me that evening. The next day, I emailed my faghag with the simple subject line: “I was right.”

So why should I not trust my gut?

I could barely sleep last night, and rushed into work this morning. Usually I check the SDMB and a couple of other boards before I start working, but instead I was in my manager’s office first thing, in my mind, to get sacked.

Well, she wanted to go over my chapter after all. I wasn’t getting canned. No one got canned. My day turned out pretty great.

So, fuck office rumors all to hell. If this were a publicly-held company, we’d have notice about layoffs, but we’re a private company, so everything’s a big mystery until it happens. Fuck that, too. How do they expect us to have any fucking morale when management fucking knows there are rumors going around, but won’t address them? Fuck that. How am I supposed to do good work when there’s all this fucking bullshit going around?

One of the co-owners is a total prick who only sees the bottom line and has no foresight whatsoever. If they knew what they were doing, they’d be fucking up-front with their employees instead of just springing crap like this on us.

Fucked company. I wonder if we’re on fuckedcompany.com.

  • s.e.

You’ve got my condolences, scott. I lost my last job in the 5th round of layoffs, and none of them were fun. Why do people have to make other people’s lives miserable? I know there are more fun things to do!

CJ

Scott, rumors just are not fun, I agree. (especially if they turn out to be unsubstantiated and unfounded) I’d be pretty paranoid if that happened to me. Heck, I got nervous, anxious, and short of breath just reading your post! I felt like it was happening to me! That is not very nice, especially if you’ve learned to listen to your intuition/gut feelings because they’ve proved you right in the past.

Some rumors just are too malicious and unkind for words, especially if they involove your job and important things like that. I wish people would be more upfront with others, but sometimes they like to make everyone walk on eggshells, and be on tenterhooks, afraid for their job and other things. And they think the office rumor mill’s not going to affect morale? Of course it will!

Scott, simply put: rumors don’t do any good except to foster a spirit of low morale. I dislike them as much as you do.

I can sympathize with you there. I have worked for a few companies that have had lay offs, and I have gotten laid off twice. The first job though, we went through rounds of layoffs and I made it through until the bitter end when they shut down the company. The second time I got laid off, I had only been on the payroll a month, but I had a sneaking suspicion, and I was right. I am glad you made it through though. One thing I did though, at the first place because I had been there a while and I was comfortable with my managers, but I just asked, “Hey, do I still have a job or should I start looking?” They were honest, even when it came time to tell me that I didnt and that I needed to start looking. Sometimes it just helps to ask, because I cant stand not knowing. When you have rent, bills and things, you need to know if you are gonna have a paycheck, and I think most people can relate to that.

One of my colleagues - skinny little runt, but one with cojones, apparently - did so. He’s looking to buy a car, and he point-blank asked our manager at break if he should not buy it now. She told him, hahaha, don’t worry, buy the car.

Of course, I had to find this out by asking another colleague what was said during that infamous break. (I usually don’t go on break with my group because I smoke, so it’s not fair to take two 15-minute breaks a day in addition to going out for several five-minute smoke breaks.)

Anyway, it would be absolutely retarded to let anyone in my division or the other one go at this point. The other division’s just released an incredible new product that could very well turn the company’s profits around. My division is about to release two new products that will do the same, and we’re all busy, under the gun, to get these two products out the door. Besides, my division is still the most profitable of all the others. Laying people off now would only delay the release of said products, and the head of my division has made it quite clear they have to be released on time.

It just sucks to work in that kind of uncertain environment, ripe with rumors, hearsay, and mysterious management meetings. You’re supposed to look forward to Fridays, not dread them because you know that’s the day when they could can you.

Do you know how far I went yesterday based on my stupid gut feeling? I didn’t pack a lunch, because my lunch bag would take too much space in my knapsack, and I’d need that space for my personal belongings if I got canned. I withdrew money for a cab, because after doing the “walk of shame,” there’s no way I’m going to wait at the “bus stop of shame” with others who got canned. I dressed relatively nicely (we can come to work looking like total slobs - no one cares) so I could at least make my final appearance looking good. When I made my way up the hill in the morning, I checked the bus stop outside work to see if there was a crowd there. A crowd of people at the bus stop at 9 AM means people are being laid off. (That’s what I saw last time there were layoffs, last July.)

What pisses me off is that, unlike when I was younger, I can no longer seem to tell the difference between my gut feelings, and my anxiety and paranoia. I’d be far less anxious if upper management just put all their cards on the table and told us all what was going on, but nooooo, everything’s a big mystery until it happens. It’s only then that they say something.

Anyway, it turns out I was pretty busy yesterday, and I did my work, and I did it greatly thank-you-very-much (BB2 Monya-ism). All I can do is continue that way: coming through, doing fantastic work, and trying to stay upbeat. It can just be really hard sometimes, given the circumstances.

  • s.e.

Just goes to show you. The folks that have ‘reliable sources’ are generally full of shit.

Fuckity fuck fuck. BLOODY FUCK

I have endured yet another three workdays (Monday was a holiday in Canada) of FUCKING OFFICE RUMORS.

I have heard at least three different rumors, each with different spins. And everyone heard it from “someone in the know.”

So here it is, Thursday evening, and supposedly :rolleyes: the axe is going to fall tomorrow.

Co-worker #1: “I asked [manager’s name, heretofore MN] point blank if anyone was going and she said no.”

Later, she said:

“[Other co-worker] said [MN] would lie to me and that if someone from our group were going, she wouldn’t say so.”

Co-worker #2, who’s been there five years: “I really don’t think it’s going to happen, but you never know.”

CW #1 (on another occasion): “I think [MN] would base it on seniority… she’s not exactly an independent thinker.”

Later in the conversation: “I heard she said at break you guys are OK. But I wasn’t at break. Maybe she was referring to them only.”

“She’s not going to sack [CW]. She needs him to bounce ideas off of.”

“[Some software engineer] told [another CW] it’s going to be Friday.”

This guy who works upstairs: “I heard it was going to be at the end of June.”

Me: “Was this from a reliable source?”

Him: “Ummm… yes.”

OK CW 1 is making me fucking PARANOID!

FUCK THIS. I CANNOT WORK LIKE THIS.

If we were a publicly-held company, they’d have to announce job cuts ahead of time. But we’re private. So they just spring it on you.

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK FORWARD TO FUCKING FRIDAY, NOT DREAD IT BECAUSE THAT’S WHEN THEY CAN PEOPLE!

FUCKED COMPANY. :mad:

I don’t dislike my job, even though I bitch about it to friends. Well, everyone bitches about their job. I’m not always busy, but when I have work to do, I do it well, and am generally a responsible employee.

I just hate this. Another sleepless Thursday… Actually I have pills for sleep :wink:

Anyway, I’ll know tomorrow morning by 9:30.

  • s.e.

Scott, I don’t have much to say, but please keep us updated, okay? :slight_smile:

I could say that it’s not going to be as bad as you think it’s going to be, but I could be wrong. I have no idea what the work environment at your workplace is like.

Rumors are sort of like a festering pool of toxic waste, you know? Nasty when you hear about them, and toxic as all get out, especially when they affect you and/or the people you love and care about. No matter how you try to get away from rumors and/or say that they don’t affect you, they do. They’re insidious as hell, and damn hard to avoid.

Anxiety and paranoia make it even worse, IMHO. I hope you are copihng with this okay. You know you can email me at any time if you feel like venting or anything. Hope it all goes well tomorrow!

I’m sending only the best supportive wishes your way, and as many hugs as needed:

{{{{Scott}}}}

Eh, I dunno about that. We’re publically owned, but when they canned 80% of my dept. (and 30% of the company total), I had no clue until the day of the layoff, and the only reason I had any hint (5 minutes before I was offically informed) was someone saw someone else packing up their stuff. Stay on top of the skills employers want, but work hard at your job and don’t panic til it happens. :slight_smile: Many rumors have agrain of truth, but sometimes it’s only microscopic.

Gaudere is right - we find out about layoffs in our company via newspapers and on the net - since we are able to buy stock (buying worthless stock is a “perk”), they can’t tell us until they tell the world - that would make for inside information to some stockholders or something like that.

scott, you up for an email or two from me?

Chill Buddy, if it does happen walk out with pride. The economy is pretty good up there, isn’t it? I was up in Montreal on travel last week and the company I was up there doing some training with was having a job fair in the lobby. They have all kinds of jobs up there. I asked about the economy and job market during one of my sessions and was told it is pretty decent… I’d actually move up there if Mrs.Phlophr liked the cold a little more…

Remember to stay cool and I agree with Gaudere, make sure your the best at your job and getting the little extra things done has a huge impact on managers and their personal views of their workers. Peopel know when I’m in a bad mod around here because I smile excessively and nod my head to every suggestion… Its just my way of getting through something hectic.

Sure. My email address is in my profile.

Anyway, it’s Friday, 12:45, and nothing happened this morning. :cool:

In any case, I have two and a half years’ experience in my field as well as two years’ experience as a graphic designer. I have a buttload of skills: expert in FrameMaker, desktop publishing, design, vector drawing, an so on. Finding another job wouldn’t be too hard, but it’d be a pain nonetheless.

  • s.e.