I thought Davis was the “great whore” herself.
No no, she’s the self-important whore. Totally different prophecy. It’s one of Nostradamus’, I quote :
And the self-important whore will rise against the sharers of rods
As the bare-chested spy proudly rides a bear across the crumbled lion
She will be forced to consume the dung of the many-headed multitude and perish
Fuck her, like for real.
It seems to me the Pope is p.o.'d. By my best reading, this was apparently arranged by the Vatican Ambassador who is extremely conservative and Francis probably had no clue what he was signing up for in meeting her. He probably did tell her (and everybody else he met) to “stay strong”.
I am amused at how desperate they are to walk this back. See the Pope doesn’t mind gay people, he has gay friends and even had an even more important meeting with one of them (who, incidentally is Argentine and a caterer-do you think he brought the Pope some barbecue and more important does he do Argentine barbecue for events here in DC and if so can I afford him?). Of course, Davis also states that she has many friends in the LGBT community; she doesn’t mind being friends with them, as long as she doesn’t have to allow them to exercise their basic constitutional rights as determined by the Supreme Court.
And anyone with half a brain.
She’s been forgiven for her past marriages. Now she’s just Great.
In her own mind. 
She’s still in an adulterous marriage. If a gay couple confesses their sins and is forgiven, yet stays married, is that a sin?
Actually, what I’m most curious about is the rosary that “the Pope gave her”. Does he travel around with packs of souvenir rosaries to hand out to everyone he passes, like beads at Mardi Gras? Do they say “I met the Pope and all I got was this lousy rosary”? Is there some sort of Vatican Embassy gift shop she had to pass through after meeting the Pope, and she just felt awkward not buying something?
The Vatican hasn’t cleared anything up; they’ve just left us with even more critical questions!
That’s what I assumed. He probably brings a gross with him and hands them out to the local worthies selected to be presented to him.
The boxes in the picture handed out by the lawyers (not that they have a good track record with pictures) have the Pope’s personal coat of arms on them as opposed to the generic crossed keys, so I’d expect them to be related to him directly. This looks identical but with Benedict XVI’s arms and it says it was given to someone during his visit to the USA in 2008.
Yeah, somebody is getting transferred to Guam.
Well, Ms. Davis Lawyer has now named “the vatican official”
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The Liberty Counsel says in a statement that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano personally spoke with Kim Davis about the invitation to meet with the pope during his trip to the United States. The Vatican has declined to say who had invited Davis.
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and based on this -
[QUOTE=http://www.lex18.com/story/30174843/lawyers-vatican-official-helped-set-up-kim-davis-pope-meet]
Vigano has strongly taken up the religious liberty charge championed by U.S. bishops.
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Sounds as if he’s pushing his own agenda - who knows how he spun the invite to her.
Has the Vatican ever had to respond to a ‘meet and greet’ like this in the past?
The thing is, the Pope (and the whole Catholic Church) simply don’t fit easily into American political labels. Is he a liberal? He condemns same-sex marriage, birth control, and legal abortion. So is he conservative? Well, he’s also passionate about immigration, climate change, and the effects of global capitalism. So, no, not conservative, either. Progressives get all misty-eyed by Francis, because he is a genuinely compassionate and humble man (so far as I can tell), and he has focussed his ministry on more quote-unquote liberal aspects of Catholic theology than either of his two predecessors. But he is still the head of a deeply traditional church that believes that it has the purest truth, directly from God, about how humans should live.
Heh.
“Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!”.
That’s cool, and I’m sorry that he has been draw into the mess that is Kim Davis. Something that our political process should have been able to take care of.
Davis is the obstinate one. She has been given alternatives.
I don’t know about Oneness Pentecostals, specifically, but it’s not treated as such in most Protestant circles. There’s some verse about not leaving your unbelieving spouse that is used as justification. Or maybe it’s just when Paul said “those who are married, stay married.” Or maybe it’s the command in the same chapter to “not cause trouble and stay the way you were when you converted.”
But I also am under the impression that this is an acceptable marriage, regardless. She divorced Husband 1 for adultery (the allowable reason for divorce), married Husband 2, divorced him and went to Husband 3, divorced him and remarried Husband 2. Only her time with Husband 3 would have counted as adulterous on her part, if that’s the case.
BTW, all of those verses I linked came from I Corinthians 7, which is a pretty interesting chapter about how Christian marriage is supposed to work. It includes the stuff about “don’t stop having sex, lest you get tempted into adultery,” as well as the idea that your spouse’s body belongs to you as much as it does to him.
(And “misogynist” Paul is sure to specify that all this works both ways.)
The “allowable reason for divorce” you cite is for the husband to divorce her, not for her to divorce the husband since it was her adultery, not his.
Remind me again what women normally do at Mardi Gras to get men to give them beads?
God doesn’t like it when they try to lawyer the bible. Who do you think gave them such comical fashion sense?
I don’t know if it’s true but I read somewhere that he gave them out to everyone and also tells everyone to “pray for me”.
I think most of Francis’ progressive fans are aware that he can’t go around changing Roman Catholic doctrine willy-nilly, and that simply changing the emphasis of which doctrines he’s concerned about is a Big Fucking Deal all by itself.
Because, you know, JPII and Ratzi said similar things to Francis about economic injustice and protecting our environment. They just didn’t put much of their weight behind it; they were more focused on what people do with their genitals.
And American conservative Catholics were OK with them on account of that. But now that Francis has come along and put climate change and the wrongs of capitalism on heavy rotation on the Vatican playlist, but is only occasionally playing their favorite oldies about abortion and contraception and homosexuality, they’re all up in arms about Francis, with open talk of schism in places. And they’re the ones who should know that, in theory at least, nothing’s changed. so it’s obviously a Big Fucking Deal to them too.