Fuck you, Voice of Christian Youth America

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Both were always a hit and I don’t remember even the religious getting bent out of shape.
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That’s because you don’t have an inflammatory radio jockey explaining why this molehill is really a mountain. Very rarely are Christians offended on their own - either because they aren’t paying attention or because they don’t really care. But when their pastor or favorite conservative says it in public, everyone’s suddenly outraged.

[QUOTE=John Mace]
One might ask why we’re discussing this here-- it’s none of our business.
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But they don’t stop with this one issue. Christian values have been legislated into law too many times. Rather than announcing they don’t like it and keeping their kids from participating, they throw their weight around change it for the kids who would have had a good time with this.

It’s not just about kids playing dress up or not, it’s the church telling the rest of us how to live.

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That’s because you don’t have an inflammatory radio jockey explaining why this molehill is really a mountain. Very rarely are Christians offended on their own - either because they aren’t paying attention or because they don’t really care. But when their pastor or favorite conservative says it in public, everyone’s suddenly outraged.
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I don’t think it makes sense to compare what goes on at a High School with what goes on at an elementary school.

Wow! Just wow.

We had Sadie Hawkins day too. Imagine the boys dressed as Daisy May and the Girls dressed as Lil Abner for the dance. Also the Powder Puff football game, with the boys football team dressed as cheerleaders.

Not to mention the first day of Homecoming Week when the freshmen had to dress as babies. Some of the best pictures in the school annual.

Oh! I forgot the day in eighth grade when a teacher said anyone wearing Hotpants would be sent home and the entire class boys included wore Hotpants the next day.

Thank Og for the decadent 70’s when the Religious Right was too busy watching for Commies and Devil Worshippers the bother the school kids.

[QUOTE=danceswithcats]
The Lord replied, “Thy excuse be lame. That’s a smitin’.”
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:smiley:

Awesome! Nicely done.

[QUOTE=John Mace]
Not to defend this group, but why should they not stick their noses into public school policy? Many people in the US can’t afford to send their kids to private schools. I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.
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Then their kids don’t have to take part.

danceswithcats, that post caused me to make water on the ground. (Well, it would have reached the ground, if it weren’t for the man-pants I have on today.)

[QUOTE=Mikemike2]
We did notice that some guys make better looking girls than some of the women folk as in Dave Thomas from Kids in the Hall.
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That’d be Dave Foley. Dave Thomas was the hamburger guy, who was never particularly noted for looking good in a dress.

I was making water on the ground. I had a box of oxygen atoms and a box of hydrogen atoms, and I was sticking them together. But now I’m just hungry for roasted chipotles.

[QUOTE=Miller]
That’d be Dave Foley. Dave Thomas was the hamburger guy, who was never particularly noted for looking good in a dress.
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His daughter Carrot Top did, though.

[QUOTE=John Mace]
Not to defend this group, but why should they not stick their noses into public school policy? Many people in the US can’t afford to send their kids to private schools. I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.
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Jesus, were you ever young?

I’m sick and tired of adults trying to push thier biases and values on kids. Let kids be kids while they can, it sucks enough to be a grownup, why push it on them sooner?

[QUOTE=John Mace]
Why is it none of their business? They’re local, and someone local brought it to their attention. One might ask why we’re discussing this here-- it’s none of our business.
We don’t know that the parents didn’t objected. It would be odd if the school administrators caved in on this if no parents were among those who eventually complained.
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Yeah, we do know the parents didn’t object. The principal said they received absolutely no objections beforehand.

The radio station seems to have had a gross misperception of what the event actually was. It was a “wacky Day” where students were encouragedto dress up either as the opposite sex or as senior citizens or not dressing up at all. It was all just a gag, a goof, none of it had anything to do with transgenderism and none of the kids were forced to participate. The kids came up with the idea themselves. They were asked to come up with "wacky dress up ideas and this was what they decided on.

Any parent who would actually have problem with this is an idiot and deserves no regard at all.

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Then their kids don’t have to take part.
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Is that what we should tell the Jewish parents, too, during the Christmas program where the plan is to sing Silent Night and Away in a Manger?

I think that the best response a school could have to something like this is to say, OK, if we have people here who are religiously offended, then we are going to find another way for our kids to have a fun day.

[QUOTE=Miller]
That’d be Dave Foley. Dave Thomas was the hamburger guy, who was never particularly noted for looking good in a dress.
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Ohh … good catch.

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
Is that what we should tell the Jewish parents, too, during the Christmas program where the plan is to sing Silent Night and Away in a Manger?

I think that the best response a school could have to something like this is to say, OK, if we have people here who are religiously offended, then we are going to find another way for our kids to have a fun day.
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There was nothing religiously offensive about this event.

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There was nothing religiously offensive about this event.
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How do you know?

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Today’s lesson comes from the book of Headnassius.

*When Chipotle arose, his garments were not in the tent, for his wife, Jalapeno, had taken them to the river to wash. So Chipotle did put on Jalapeno’s garments, and went forth into the camp.

Whereupon the Lord looked down, and seeing this, called out with a loud voice, saying, “Chipotle! What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports art thou doing? Why wearest thou thy wife’s garments? Hast teh gay been caught by thee?”

And Chipotle trembled, and made water on the ground, for he was afraid. He cried out, “I had nothing to wear, for my wife had taken my garments to be washed.”

The Lord replied, “Thy excuse be lame. That’s a smitin’.”

The clouds darkened, and a mighty ‘ZOT’ of lightning smote Chipotle before the rest of the camp. The elders built an altar on the spot, calling it Nixamuumuuswappahomonono, meaning “wear not gender improper raiment, lest thee catch teh gay, and thy ass be kicked”.*
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Hey, I was going to write that … er uh - that is really funny. :stuck_out_tongue:

[QUOTE=Miller]
That’d be Dave Foley. Dave Thomas was the hamburger guy, who was never particularly noted for looking good in a dress.
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Or this Dave Thomas who at least was on a Canadian sketch comedy show.

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
Is that what we should tell the Jewish parents, too, during the Christmas program where the plan is to sing Silent Night and Away in a Manger?

I think that the best response a school could have to something like this is to say, OK, if we have people here who are religiously offended, then we are going to find another way for our kids to have a fun day.
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No, that’s not what the Jewish parents should be told. The thing is, those carols are explicitly Christian. And there is a constitutional requirement that Christianity not be imposed by the public school system.

Not every parental concern can be accomodated. That’s life. But surely the ones that take priority should be those that are constitutionally mandated to be considered. What we have here, on the other hand, is an invented concern. It is taking things massively out of context - since when has kids playing dress up been against traditional family values? Despite what has been posted here, it isn’t “cross dressing” any more than a boy playing a female role in a play is.

What the religious group are doing here is deliberately reading a sexual aspect in where there is none. It’s Tinky-Winky again. In fact, it is their actions that are harmful to children. They are the ones who are taking young children and sexualizing their activities. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes elementary school children playing dress up is just a game, not a vicious attempt to recruit them into the dreaded “gay lifestyle.”

[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]
Is that what we should tell the Jewish parents, too, during the Christmas program where the plan is to sing Silent Night and Away in a Manger?
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The usual solution is to sing a few Christmas carols, some Hanukkah songs, and some generic stuff like “White Christmas” and so on. As an atheist, I was never offended by or even uncomfortable with singing religious songs.