Fuckin' cell phone fuckers! CSA Rant, lengthy.

We signed up for a two year cell phone fucking plan about a year ago through goddamn Cingular.
The plan included a “free*” phone, yaaah!!!
The wife had to return the phone after one month because it couldn’t find a signal even if we were hoovering in a hot air balloon three feet from a fucking cell tower.

Fast-forward just a smidgeon past one year and we find ourselves the vicitims of the same brokendownass phone again. This time the main screen goes out. We take the phone in and present it to the teenage-pimply faced customer service agent at the nearest Cingular store. Apparently a service tech takes it apart and tries to fix it. They allegedly replace two components in the phone and then call us back to pick up said phone.
This is where it gets confusing, try to stay with me here.
The teenage pimply-faced, with the smug smile on his face, cunstomer service agent gave us a loaner phone for 15 days to use while ours was in the repair shop, free of charge! (they’re incredibly swell people, I tell you)
That wasn’t the confusing part unless you’re shocked they even gave us a courtesy phone, I digress.
The confusing part is that our repaired phone still didn’t fucking work.
They try to claim that it was damaged by water.
Huh? The phone hardly ever left my wife’s purse, and never to my knowledge saw a goddamn speck of water. I guess just being in the close proximity of a perspiring human being is enough to cause “water damage”. Fuckin’ A.
And they were going to bill us for the repairs, which would have been in-fucking-credibly ballsy on the teenage pimply-faced with huge balls customer service agent’s part. I mean, I was surprised that the guy who attemtped to bill us could even get through the front doors of the Cingular store if you know what I mean, with balls that size.
The spouse and I are fuming at this point.
I said to the customer service agent, as politely as I could, “How do you live with yourself, you enormously ball sacked prick!” Actually, I shared with him a made up analogy about car repairs that involved a broken transmission, a huge repair bill, and a car that was still undriveable. I think he got the point.
So anyway, we were out of paying for the phone “repairs”, but there was still this lingering matter of not having a working phone.
“Well, can we just keep this loaner phone?, it’s the exact same one that we had and seems to work fine”
“Only if you want to buy it off us, for, lessee, about $150.”, said the large balled pimply-faced customer fucking service agent with the smug smile.
“What, you mean that we have to buy a new phone now?”

Wife was pissed at this point, she was actually red, because we walked into the phone store think all good things. We’re clearly not from this planet.
We thought the following good things:
(The phone was free of charge with the two year plan.)
The phone would be repaired fee of charge.
The phone would be replaced free of charge.
If they didn’t make the phone anymore we’d get an upgrade free of charge.
If things didn’t go according to our plan (which basically included anything that was free of charge), we’d back out of the contract and look elsewhere.
BZZZZZT!! Four strikes, you’re out!
Not only were we unable to back out of the plan (read the fine print you small balled and contract shackled customer), but we indeed had to buy a new phone and not the same phone, no-sirree, they really don’t make that one anymore, we had to buy a new fucking phone. Actually, we couldn’t even afford a new phone, we ended up getting a RETURNED phone that someone else didn’t like because we didn’t want to end up paying an extra $100 for the same model, only brand-new iN tHe boX!! AAHHHHH!!!
So, not only do they get us on the hook for water damage when they couldn’t prove that it stopped working due to damage…from…water. All they could point to was some corrosion on two adjacent solder joints on some puny little piece of shit circuit board component that was unreplaceable due to it’s being puny in nature.

That they can get away with this sort of thing, that is, not supplying a customer with a working phone during the length of the contract, is attrocious. I’m going to write a scathing letter to the PTB and see it there is any further action they will take to recitfy this before our contract ends and we walk away.
The damage was clearly not due to carelessness or obvious negligence. If anything it’s a design fault of the phone itself, although I could not find any hard evidence on the internet regarding this phone and “water damage”.
Oh, the reason we didn’t buy the loaner phone, aside from the $150 price tag, was that it was already over two years old and we’d had some trouble with that model, obviously.
So, go Fuck yourself Cingular, and you’d better start issuing lead underwear to your employees because I think the radiation exposure from working in a cell phone store causes your CSA’s to develope elephantitis of the nuts. That ain’t a good thing when it comes to customer satisfaction nowadays.

“Water damage” seems to be corporate speak for “We have no intention of honoring your warrantee.” I (and many others) got the same run around from Sony when I tried to get my P150 digital camera repaired for dust on the lens.

Picture if you will, conversation after conversation that went like this:

Me: “Hi, I’d like to inquire about the camera I sent in to have its sensor cleaned.”
CSR: “Sorry, we can’t repair this camera. It has water damage.”
Me: “The camera was working perfectly. It just has crud on the sensor. This is a known problem with this camera. I just want you to clean the sensor and send it to me.”
CSR:“Sorry, the camera is unrepairable.”
Me:“It’s not unrepairable. It was working fine. Just clean the fucking sensor.”
CSR:“Sorry, it has water damage. We’re not allowed to repair it.”
Me:“It was working fine.”
CSR:“We can put in a new circuit board but it will cost you [much more than the camera cost brand new]. Or we’ll give you an [insignificant discount] on a new camera that won’t fit the accessories that you have for your current camera.”
Me:“Let’s talk to your supervisor.”

I suspect every camera and/or cell phone gets used occasionally in high humidity, gets touched with wet hands, or gets caught in a rain shower. The result is probably enough to trigger their moisture detecting technology, even though the electronics are unharmed. Still, it’s an opportunity for the company to weasel out of their obligations.

While I understand the frustrations expressed in the rant above, I don’t see why you would expect, unless you bought the “protection racket (I mean plan)” from Cingular for your phone, that your phone would be completely covered and repaired or replaced free of chrage during your contract period. That’s like getting a 5 year loan on a car with a 3 year warranty, and asking them to fix it for free in year 4.

Most cell phones have a 90 day warranty, some have 1 year. Yes, it’s reasonable to expect that your phone should work during the contract period. However, there will inevitably be some small percentage of phones that fail outside the warranty period. That’s the point at which it pays to have been a loyal customer for several years. I have gotten free replacements and discounted repairs from Verizon because I have been with them since 1999. Oh, and also because they are not Cingular/AT&T.

But besides that, I am always a bit worried when I get my “new every two” phone, and look to get one of the ones with a longer warranty period. The “water damage” bullshit above is regrettable though.

No thanks, their warranty for “everything” is $5 per month. After two years that’s almost exactly the cost of the phone. This particular phone would have been repaired at their cost if it wasn’t mysteriously damaged by water. That’s their out, and a shitty one at that.

It almost makes you want to spring for the warranty and “accidentally” drop your phone in an unflushed toilet three months in a row, doesn’t it.

What you have to do here is start the old “May I speak to your manager?” routine, going up the tree, combined with your local newspapers “answer line” or whatever they call it, and a letter (not an email) to the CEO/President.

You gave up too early. The bastards wore you down. :frowning:

What you have to do here is start the old “May I speak to your manager?” routine, going up the tree, combined with your local newspapers “answer line” or whatever they call it, and a letter (not an email) to the CEO/President.

You gave up too early. The bastards wore you down. :frowning:

A few days ago I notice Alltell has drafted over 200 bux from my bank account. I’m suprised because I’ve never recieved a cell bill over 75 and I always pay on time.

A little back story: Used to have 2 phones on one account with Alltell. Nearly 2 years ago, switched that account to just one phone and let my ex keep his number on it (and I opened another account for myself). We filed all the appropriate papers to have my data removed from that account. I have all the papers. They are dated. I have the name of the store clerk who helped us at the time.

I suspect that what has happened is that my ex has missed some payments and somehow my account info never got erased from his. I wait 20 minutes in line at the Alltell store to talk to a pimply-faced clerk. Upon hearing my story, he says " Oh - you need to call financial services. Here’s the number." While sitting at the desk of pimply-faced boy, I place the call. I get transferred about 60 times, and placed on hold for about 6 years. Finally, I get connected to a real-live person that says I need to go to an Alltell store and talk to a clerk. Me: “I’m IN THE FUCKING STORE right NOW and they told me to call YOU!”

Manager comes around about now. I repeat entire story. He says he’ll take care of it and call me before close of biz that day, by which time he is sure he’ll have it all worked out.

Close of biz: what a suprise - no call. I phone them and get placed on eternal hold, never actully getting connected to a real person. I call the general 800 customer service numbers and they say - oh yeah the stores never answer their phone.

I resolved it myself by forcing ex to cough up the dough - paid the account off and closed it. Thanks for all your help Alltell. I’ll be sure to close my account, too, once my contract is up (so Cingular or Nextel can have their turn fucking me). Oh yeah - and that dinky little free phone I got with my plan SUX! If I have it up next to my ear, the microphone is so far away from my mouth that I can’t be heard. If I put it closer to my mouth, then I can’t hear the caller. :mad:

As far as I know, water damage negates the warranty as well. There is a little dot under the battery that will turn color if the phone gets wet. I think this is set up as some kind of protection from customers who insist their phone didn’t fall in the toilet.

I would assume when the tech opened up the OP phone, the dot was red.

Uncommon Sense, I think I know what happened.

Did your wife, at any time, attempt to call Roger Waters?

If you will agree to extend your service agreement another 2 years, they’ll usually throw in another free phone. Depends on how badly you want that overpriced phone.

If you just lie down and let those fuckers walk all over you, you deserve whatever you get.

you shoud have told them to go fuck themselves, and demanded to pay your buyout so you could take your business elsewhere.

The problem with the water dot is I think they go bad on a humid day, or the like. I don’t know why they don’t epoxy the shit out of the circuit boards like they did years ago when moisture might be a problem. I like to see one of those consumer shows or 60 minutes do a test on say a hundred phones and see how many phones have bad water dots when they never were rained on or dropped in water. The companies need to make the things more waterproof that’s for sure. Maybe Timex can go into the phone business. They’ll make one that can be strapped to a boat prop and still keep on ticking, I mean working.

Then you should’ve flexed your biceps, run your hands through your sweet-ass mullet, hopped in through the window of your cherry Trans Am and laid about 50 yards of smoking rubber as you peeled out of that fuckin’ parking lot, ‘cause fuck if those fuckers are gonna take you for a fuckin’ pussy!

Nope, tried that. I…Have…To…Wait…Till…The…Contract…Is…Up.
One more year.

What make of phone was it , Ebay has a number of people selling replacement moisture stickers , for water damaged or what have you , phones.

Declan

Do me a favour there’s a good chap.

Delete my name from your sig.

Yours faithfully
chowder, with a small “c”

And if so, did he keep hanging up?

If you returned the phone, how did you still have it a year later?

I’m a little confused by a lot of things in your tale. You didn’t buy the warranty but they were going to fix the phone unless it had water damage? Why would they?

I’d recommend you call them and get it explained to you very thoroughly what’s going on and where in your paperwork it’s all spelled out. It will all be spelled out somewhere. They’re annoying but thorough.

…they keep hanging up, and it’s a man answering…