Fuck all you deadbeats who don’t pay child support. Fuck you for not being man or woman enough to take care of your own and making a single parent try to make it work, or burdening taxpayers. Fuck you for knowing that sometimes it is easier for you to go to jail than pay it.
And it says something real ugly about human nature to begin with that we have to take it out of your check, burdening the employer, because it is known you’d fucking spend it all before you could pay it yourself. Another example of society paying for YOUR failures.
Really, it’s god damn fucked up that we even HAVE a child support office. If you’re a fucking deadbeat and you won’t pay, here’s a better solution; snip them, and take away any rights of seeing their children again, your children would be better off without you.
And if you want to cry about not having a job - you should of thought of that before you had kids. Fuck.
Fuck you, you piece of shit deadbeats. I hope your kid pisses on your grave.
Also, the situation isn’t “complicated”, you are worming your way out of supporting your own flesh and blood which is not yet old enough to do so themselves. There isn’t anything about that that is complicated.
Was this inspired by a particular deadbeat? By your username, I’d assume you to be male, which doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have an opinion about child support but it’s surprising to hear it come from a man and not a single mom. Let me guess, woman you’re dating isn’t getting her checks?
My cousin, actually. The father is in arrears and my cousin won’t send him to jail because then she will get even less :rolleyes:.
Also, I run payroll so I have to work these orders…A LOT. And if you make one mistake the employer is liable instead of the employee. Yeah, that makes sense…I get penalized if I don’t know all the rules of deadbeatville. Ugh
Sure, that’s true. But I’m sure if you found statistics on which gender more often pays the CS, it’s going to be an extremely lopsided number. I don’t care enough either way to look it up myself though. I agree with you that it’s about custodial/non-custodial parents, as well as how their incomes compare.
Sometimes people have legitimate reasons they cannot pay their court ordered support. In those cases I am very sympathetic. The justice system is a real pain in the ass to navigate, and it sucks.
Most times, though, people who don’t pay their support are just assholes. Fuck them forever.
Ah, this thread reminds me of my ex-wife…no money to give to me to share in the cost of doctor’s visits, sports, school lunches, the latchkey program the boys are in that costs $500 a month, never buys them clothes, but when I go to pick them up from her weekends with them, it’s “Look at this new videogame Mom bought us, Dad!”
That’s what I get for agreeing to an open-ended child support arrangement, and for thinking she’d do the right thing without being legally obligated to do so.
Tell me about it. My daughter’s father is a deadbeat AND a foreigner. So there’s no legal way for me to get the child support out of him. Occasionally he’ll send $50-$100, but only if it doesn’t inconvenience him. Because he’s needs a life too you know? And if I don’t show the proper gratitude and thanks, I get bitched at for being ungrateful and making him not want to send any money at all because I’m such a bitch like that.
My ex conned all his family and friends into thinking he was a caring father when at the same time, he literally did not pay me a dime until he was legally required to. Now he waits until they’re about to suspend his license to pay up. Then it’s another long wait for my next payment, while today I literally had 7 cents in my checking account. I get to hear about all the expensive things they do and he buys, and I can’t buy the kid a happy meal unless I budget it two weeks in advance.
While I’m sympathetic to emergency situations and rough patches, he could at least say “Hey, I’m having a rough time. Don’t want to discuss it, but I thought I’d be fair in case it messes you up.” It’s also not something thrust upon him by the courts; he did agree to these legal-minimum payments. I’m owed thousands of dollars with no interest, no punishment. He most likely will pay up on his last day before he gets in real trouble, but every week is a struggle.
I think he thinks if we go to court that he’ll give his sob story and somehow he’ll end up winning, but I can’t imagine there’s anything he could say that a judge hasn’t heard a million times. Also, it’s hard to claim hardship when you’re buying your new girlfriend diamond rings.
I am so sorry for your situation. I honestly just cannot understand it. How could someone be so heartless about their own kid? I’d be sitting their eaten to death by guilt at least, unable to do the things I normally enjoy.
I will tell you how Anthony. As a child of divorce I had a unique perspective on the whole parental support issue. My parents never really fought over child support in front of us. They worked out a deal where it was not court ordered but my dad did agree to help my mom out on certain expenses and we were to go see him every summer for about two to three months. The only problem with that is it doesn’t become an issue about supporting the children becomes an issue of supporting the ex spouse . The parent sees the child support as money that is not going to their kids but to the support of their ex who they hate. Honestly they don’t even think about their kids when they’re sending money to the ex spouse. It becomes of Battle of power and money and control. When I was with my dad in the summer he had no problem spending money on me and my brother, but when we were living with my mom during the school year we were well aware of the money problems my mom had because she was a social worker and wasn’t making as much as she was when it was a 2 income household. The kids get stuck in the middle of this and even if you are blessed with two parents who try not to make you aware of what’s going on kids are not stupid and we figured out pretty quickly that there were issues with money and support between my parents.
Finally dug up a post I made almost 12 years ago* on this very subject. Even though my daughters (who ended up moving in with me) are grown — one gone, the other on the way out — and even though it was a financial relief when the (legal) obligations ended, my thoughts on the matter haven’t changed.
Many noncustodial parents aren’t jerks where their children are concerned. I like to pretend that I wasn’t. But IMHO, the ninth level of Hades is too merciful a fate for those who are.
That’s actually a really good explanation and I think it reflects well on my situation. Once he demanded that I send him an itemized list of everything I spent ‘his’ money on, so that he could make sure I wasn’t using it for myself. I told him to go to hell more or less. As I did when he told me any support would end the moment I started dating someone else or he got married. I know I have no legal standing to get the support out of him, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to let him dictate everything.
Custodial parents can pay child support too, you know.
But most of those who don’t pay child support don’t pay because they can’t. Responsing to that by suspending professional or business licences, imprisoning the payers and so on is idiotic.
As for the OP:
Perhaps it would be a good idea to see if someone has the financial resources to support a child before allowing that person custody? If you’re just a layabout why should you be allowed to raise lazy parasitic children? Why should you be able you use your children as a hostage to extract money from someone of more value to society? Or does your venom only extend as far a group that’s not mostly women?
In recent years, it seems that most child support non-payers were never married to the other parent. If they were married, they generally didn’t support the kids when they lived with them, and in both cases, they also don’t pay any of their other bills either.
And there ARE legitimate cases where the money isn’t being spent on child support. I had a friend in high school where this was the case. :mad:
The thing is though, I was never even given the chance to pay CS on my own. Forget the fact that I’ve got an excellent credit rating. The judge just automatically ordered it to be garnished from my paycheck.
13 years later, I’m over it now but I DID NOT appreciate my employer being contacted with regards to my CS.
Also, I could bitch about the $5 service fee ($10 a month) the company charges me for handling the garnishment. But I wont even though it’s BS on a minor scale.
As I’ve said in other threads, people wouldn’t bitch if they were provided with an accounting that the money they paid in child support was actually used in support of their child. I know that is a terrible inconvenience for someone to actually account for money they receive in trust, but it’s done all of the time, except in child support cases where it is perfectly legal to spend all of that money on yourself so long as CPS isn’t called for not giving the child basic minimum necessities.
IOW, If I make $1M per year, I pay a lot of child support because the law says that the child should have a lifestyle accustomed to my income. However, other parent can take that money and spent it on whatever, but as long as there isn’t starvation and incests in the house, no harm no foul. This is absolutely wrong and needs changed…
People would bitch no matter how it was handled. Like I said before, the parents involved aren’t really thinking about the kids, they are too wrapped up in their negative feelings about eachother and only using the kids tangentially as an emotional bargaining tool.