Handle? Shit, you can’t recognise the truth.
He has a Facebook page. I suppose you could post it there, but I’m not sure that he’d have a sense of humor about it. He might punch you.
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Someone, anyone, tell me why these three guys look as though they are under so much goddamn pressure to get through this thing and why smiles are so forced and so rare? Why do these three guys look as though they have just been to a funeral?
It makes no goddamn sense to me. And if conjecture is all that there is in this long running debate, then this is a good starting point.
[/QUOTE]My take away from that-
Gawd, what a bunch of stiffs. Can you make going to the moon any less exciting? Maybe next time we send someone who can act like it was a life changing experience.
But alas, it doesn’t mean these guys didn’t go to the moon. Just means their personalities are dry as hell and NASA wasn’t focusing on their PR at the time.
But did you pick up my quote? And are you going to answer the questions?
You know, in 1969 Nixon was president. What better way of getting back at the memory of the hated JFK than exposing the Apollo program as a sham. Why didn’t he?
You should read “The Right Stuff” some day. There was pressure on the astronauts, and their wives, to not embarrass the program. And especially back then it wasn’t cool to hop around in public. Plus Neil Armstrong was never Mr. Excitement.
I just read Gene Cernan’s autobiography. He was plenty excited - on the page, not in public.
First, the buggy was not on Apollo XI. Second, why they would want a buggy is the biggest no-brainer in history. Do you walk to the grocery? The buggy let them go further and collect more samples than they could carry. Is this tough for you to figure out?
Anyhow, if they faked the later footage, wouldn’t the buggy make it a lot more difficult?
Does this whack-a-loon theory apply to all the Apollo missions, or just the ones that landed? Do you, for example, believe that Apollo 8, the first manned craft to orbit the moon, was actually unmanned? What about the Mercury and Gemini manned spaceflight programs - were they actually unmanned as well?
I think I found his secret message. If you take every 69th letter (for 1969, year of the hoax), divide by Buzz Aldrin’s shoe size, and do modulo math based on the current phase of the moon, you’ll single out the following letters in his text:
So, whadda I win for breaking the code?
He’ll get you a free small fries with your burger.
What I’d like to know is what CT-ers have to say about Apollo 13. That was a near-disaster that not only led to the loss of the mission, but nearly cost the lives of three astronauts. Or do they call that a fake, too?
Meh, as it turned out I have experience in digital video and photography, and years before this guy pointed at more evidence and logic I had concluded that the technology available then prevented or made virtually impossible to fake the moon landing video video or the film.
There are more than tiny dots, the shadows of the remaining Lander and the laser reflectors left on the moon by the astronauts show direct evidence of them having landed on the moon.
And, of course, we still have the moon rocks, higher resolution images taken from the moon, specialized equipment that was later checked by the makers, etc.
I’ve been a regular poster here for more than ten years, and a moderator for about five. Yeah, I think I’ve got a pretty good grasp of the demographics of this board.
Well, no, this is the BBQ Pit. This is where we call people names. You could, however, start a thread about your views in Great Debates, where the board rules forbid direct insults.
You’ll probably still get some contempt. It’s hard to prevent that from leaking through when you’re debating dishonest idiots like yourself.
You’ll find plenty of non-Americans more than happy to point out that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Contempt for moon hoaxers cuts across all nations, creeds, and races.
If “Why’d they bring a buggy,” is meant to be evidence that the thing was a hoax, I have to ask, “Why did they pretend to bring a buggy?” If it’s such an obviously ridiculous idea, why did they pretend to do it?
It’s not a matter of whether you’re free to draw your own conclusions, it’s a matter of being competent to draw your own conclusions. Clearly, you’re not competent, because of that brain problem you clearly have.
Incidentally, I don’t believe we landed on the moon because my government tells me it did. I believe it, in part, because every other government tells me it happened, even ones that have a material interest in discrediting the US government. The US government might be willing to lie to us about going to the moon - but why would the Soviet government go along with it?
That’s your brain problem acting up again.
No, this is the forum where you go when trying to have an intelligent, rational debate with someone has proven to be pointless. Since that’s pretty much always the case with moon hoaxers, I guess just starting it here saved us some time.
Okay, I’ll try that.
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Nope. Didn’t work. You’re still an idiot.
Miller doesn’t speak for me. I independently declare John Denning an idiot asshole.
How old is he? I’m guessing hipster age.
My grandparents had recently moved to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, (many moons ago) and traveled to watch the launch from Merritt island. I think I’ll trust them on the launch.
As far as the landing (which did happen), how are those reflectors on the moon there? We flew by and dropped them from an unmanned space craft in the 1960s? No, they were planted by men who landed on the moon. We continue to use the reflectors to measure how much distance there is between the Earth and our Moon. It’s currently moving away from us at 3.8cm per year.
The hearty approval and appreciation of the sane people reading this thread! Good work, m’sieu!
Ooh, ooh, I know! The people behind the hoax were the makers of Tang, and they needed to boost the ratings by having a dramatic mission, so that more people could see their Tang ads.
Better justification than the non-existent one Mr. Troll has given.
Not Tang!!! It was those zero-G space pens.
Without the space program, we wouldn’t have the Tang song.
We wouldn’t have space pens either. So there!
Your argument boils down to “I don’t understand why they didn’t act like I would had, therefore conspiracy”.
Hmm… what does that resemble? Ah, yes, this: