Fukkin Facist Florida Firearm Fanatics

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@MaxTheVool

Those are the types of issues that I think REALLY threaten the future of the USA. A thousand years from now when historians try to pinpoint the exact moment that the USA failed as a nation, it’s going to involve some large and systemic issue like the above, not “well, congress passed a poorly worded assault weapons ban, and it was a direct line from that to the entire once-great nation dissolving”… at least, that’s how I see it.

Those issues are mostly important. (I do not see the criticality of “income inequality,” myself, and do not regard the “increasing influence” of corporations as an issue, because corporations like the New York Times and NBC Universal already hold so much sway that I suspect the concern is actually dilution of their influence by other corporations that do not hold appropriately leftist views).

But it’s not true that any candidate has emerged as a shining answer is resolving our dependence on foreign oil or a realistic way for one country to make effective strides in reducing global warming.

Bone has the right of it: I’m actually kind of amazed that I’m seeing this return to a refrain of, “It’s a fantasy that anyone wants to make sweeping gun control laws – why are you voting as though this is a danger?”

After Sandy Hook, the reality was laid bare: there were plenty of people in power who were waiting and alert for a chance to do just that.

Let’s take a trip back through time and see the mood:

@Really_Not_All_That_Bright

Yes, this sounds like a warmed over version of the AWB, which - thanks to reasonable pro-gun folks like XT and Zeriel - I came to understand was a waste of time.

However, unless you have a better idea, I don’t think you can complain much if it gets passed. The national mood is clearly Something Must Be Done, and if you don’t do it then somebody like Pelosi will.

@Marley23

Using the word “criminalizes” over and over doesn’t impress me. It’s not “criminalization,” it’s a requirement to register. Is there a reason you prefer the scarier-sounding wording?

And you’re not being asked to make changes to your guns to make them compliant with this bill, nor is the ownership of any existing guns being banned. But the idea of requiring registration of new guns and not old ones is pointless.

@China_Guy

Well, would it be more palatable to the pro-gun folks to make it a six round limit? I mean if 10 won’t really solve the problem, why not cut it down to 6? Would that help?

I really don’t understand where guns need to be one of the *potentially * most harmful yet least regulated things around. I just re-read the second amendment and I while I caught the part about a “well regulated militia” but missed the section where it spells out in black and white that the government can never ever even think about registration for legitimate gun owners. Help me out here.

And of course actual legislative proposals.
And from the horse’s mouth:

If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.

Why weren’t the votes there? Because of an attention to voting for pro-gun rights politicians.

I honestly feel like you’re simply reviving the tactic of claiming the worry is a silly one until such time as another attempt might succeed, and then you’ll shrug and echo RNATB: hey, the will of the country is there, what can you do?