Fukushima still melting down, still a nuclear disaster

[Sailboat]

Now, the percentage of D&D players who have committed Orcicide is 100%.

[FXMastermind]

SASEBO NAVAL BASE, Japan — Five months after participating in humanitarian operations for the March 11, 2011, earthquake and tsunami that led to nuclear disaster in Japan, Petty Officer 3rd Class Daniel Hair’s body began to betray him.

He had sharp hip pains, constant scabbing in his nose, back pain, memory loss, severe anxiety and a constant high-pitch ringing in his ears as his immune system began to attack his body. The diagnosis, he said, was a genetic immune system disease, which on X-rays looked to have made his hip joint jagged and his spine arthritic. He was put on a host of medications and eventually separated from the Navy job he loved.

Hair believes radiation is the cause. He is among 50 sailors and Marines in a growing lawsuit against Tokyo Electric Power Co., alleging that Japan’s nationalized utility mishandled the meltdown at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant that spewed radiation into the air and water.

http://www.stripes.com/in-growing-lawsuit-servicemembers-fault-tepco-for-radiation-related-illnesses-1.230512

December 12, 2013 – Crew members in their mid-20’s from the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan are coming down with all sorts of radiation-related illnesses after being deployed less than 3 years ago to assist with earthquake rescue operations off the coast of Japan in 2011. It looks as though the onboard desalinization systems that take salt out of seawater to make it drinkable, were taking-in radioactive water from the ocean for the crew to drink, cook with and bath-in, before anyone realized there was a massive radiation spill into the ocean.

http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/99-pat

Fifty-one U.S. sailors - many in their 20s - say they contracted several types of cancer during humanitarian aid operations in response to the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster.

The sailors - crew members of the USS Ronald Reagan - are now among the growing list of plaintiffs in an over $2 billion lawsuit against Japan’s nationalized utility company, Tokyo Electric. The suit alleges the company lied about the radiation danger to rescue crews.

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/9450-51-u-s-sailors-are-the-latest-victims-of-the-fukushima-nuclear-disaster

[FXMastermind]

I just realized that the water tanks they are storing the contaminated water in, are uphill from what used to be the Fukushima power plant.

I can already see it now. After a quake causes a mini tsunami of radioactive water to pour down hill into the already dangerous site, somebody will be saying “Who could have forseen this?”.

Now the site is off limits from the radiation levels. back to extreme crisis mode.

Fukushima, the reactors that just keep on giving.

[sleestak]

@The_Second_Stone

Mother Nature is at the head of the anti-nuclear movement, and she is a lot more effective than those dern hippies. She has destroyed the nuclear industry with on damaging earthquake and a large tsunami. Unlike the hippies, Mother Nature doesn’t lie or engage in politics. She just kicks ass.

No amount of nuclear lying is going to bring back respectability to nuclear power.

And by the way, there are nuclear power plants in the US that are directly downstream from damns that can fail. Coverup: Risk of Nuclear Melt-Down in U.S. Higher than it was at Fukushima - Global ResearchGlobal Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Mother Nature is the head of the anti- city movement, the anti-energymovement, and the anti-human movement.

Nuclear supplies ~ %6 of the worlds energy yet it causes %0.04 death per deaths per terawatt hour. For comparison, Solar provides %0.44 of the worlds energy but causes 10 times as many deaths per terawatt hour as nuclear.

Get a fucking clue.

Slee

*Yeah, I know this is responding way late to the post. However it drives me batshit when I see these kinds of dumb ass arguments. Guess what? Nature is trying to kill you from the moment you are born.

[Trinopus]

@sleestak

. . . Solar provides %0.44 of the worlds energy but causes 10 times as many deaths per terawatt hour as nuclear. . . .

And Solar Energy involves deadly radiation too! (People have died from sunburns…)

(I’m quipping, but I’m on your side. Real statistics tend not to appeal to true believers, but even with Fukushima and Chernobyl, nuclear power is safer than nearly all other forms. How many people have died in coal mines? Maybe a hundred times as many as have died from nuclear power!)

[Great_Antibob]

@sleestak

Nature is trying to kill you from the moment you are born.

Nature always wins in the end.

[FXMastermind]

It can’t happen soon enough

[Bryan_Ekers]

@FXMastermind

Be happy. Nuclear isn’t dead.

Cool.

[FXMastermind]

@XT

We all need a good laugh along with the rolling of eyes to perk us up and make our day complete.

Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug

[levdrakon]

@sleestak

Mother Nature is the head of the anti- city movement, the anti-energymovement, and the anti-human movement.

Nuclear supplies ~ %6 of the worlds energy yet it causes %0.04 death per deaths per terawatt hour. For comparison, Solar provides %0.44 of the worlds energy but causes 10 times as many deaths per terawatt hour as nuclear.

Get a fucking clue.

Slee

*Yeah, I know this is responding way late to the post. However it drives me batshit when I see these kinds of dumb ass arguments. Guess what? Nature is trying to kill you from the moment you are born.

People fall off their roofs installing solar and that’s your argument? Yes, of course let’s all go nuke.

[Trinopus]

CBS Radio News reports the lawsuit is being dismissed. The judge said he didn’t have jurisdiction.

[Try2B_Comprehensive]

@levdrakon

People fall off their roofs installing solar and that’s your argument? Yes, of course let’s all go nuke.

Right. And I don’t think there is a full accounting of deaths due to nuclear since the waste introduces a ‘tail’ that lasts for thousands and thousands of years. Not that I’m fiercely anti-nuke, but this is worth pointing out.

[The_Second_Stone]

@sleestak

Mother Nature is the head of the anti- city movement, the anti-energymovement, and the anti-human movement.

Nuclear supplies ~ %6 of the worlds energy yet it causes %0.04 death per deaths per terawatt hour. For comparison, Solar provides %0.44 of the worlds energy but causes 10 times as many deaths per terawatt hour as nuclear.

Get a fucking clue.

Slee

*Yeah, I know this is responding way late to the post. However it drives me batshit when I see these kinds of dumb ass arguments. Guess what? Nature is trying to kill you from the moment you are born.

F’ the second law of thermodynamics!

It’s really too bad about those USS Ronald Reagan sailors, who are probably making it all up because nuclear power is perfectly safe and doesn’t cause anyone any harm. Just ask the neighbors at Fukashima!

I’d start a thread about just the sailors, who, according to our thread here, didn’t manage to pick a judge with jurisdiction, but are still going to suffer and die anyway.

I wasn’t aware that there was a rule that prevented anyone from starting a thread on nuclear catastrophes, so it is good to be informed of that, I won’t do it again. While it would be nice to have a suitable place on the internet to whine and swear about what bastards nuclear engineers and their fellow fellationists are, our inexorable march toward a “more safe and secure society” doesn’t require that “we watch what we say” as Ari Fleischer so adroitly put it before he commanded Ann Coulter to shove some liberals up against a wall.

[The_Second_Stone]

@Try2B_Comprehensive

Right. And I don’t think there is a full accounting of deaths due to nuclear since the waste introduces a ‘tail’ that lasts for thousands and thousands of years. Not that I’m fiercely anti-nuke, but this is worth pointing out.

Yes, but that isn’t a problem that we have the ability to solve and deal with now, but rather can kick the can down the road several times consecutively for several thousand years. Effectively this allows us here and now to incur a huge debt and pass it on to the future without accounting for it or planning for the retirement of this debt. The people who are enriched in the short run will all be dead when the bills start coming due and we can sell future generations into financial servitude for our immediate benefit. And by “our” I mean those that will profit from the nuclear industry. If you consider the future environment to be of zero value, and what fascist doesn’t?, nuclear is the perfect investment.

[Bryan_Ekers]

Screw future generations. They’ll have it easier than us, with their rocket pants and pill food and such.

[Trinopus]

@The_Second_Stone

. . . I wasn’t aware that there was a rule that prevented anyone from starting a thread on nuclear catastrophes, so it is good to be informed of that, I won’t do it again. . . .

Actually, there’s a rule against people named after stones, so all of your posts are technically forbidden here. So… G’bye.

(Hey, if he’s stupid enough to believe what he claims, he might be stupid enough to believe this too.)

[Broomstick]

@The_Second_Stone

I wasn’t aware that there was a rule that prevented anyone from starting a thread on nuclear catastrophes, so it is good to be informed of that, I won’t do it again.

I believe that applies only to one poster in this thread.

[FXMastermind]

Marley23
I Am the One Who Bans

Don’t start another thread on this topic.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14214898#post14214898

Since “the topic” is a fluid and undefined thing, best to not take chances. Besides, everybody knows nuclear is safe and no matter what Fukushima isn’t really a bad thing.

Hell, I don’t even know why they built containment for all those reactors. Even when radioactive fuel leaks out for years, nothing bad happens.

[XT]

@FXMastermind

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14214898#post14214898

Since “the topic” is a fluid and undefined thing, best to not take chances. Besides, everybody knows nuclear is safe and no matter what Fukushima isn’t really a bad thing.

Hell, I don’t even know why they built containment for all those reactors. Even when radioactive fuel leaks out for years, nothing bad happens.

Straw on sale this week, ehe?

[FXMastermind]

Just remember, coal has killed far more people than nuclear.