Funny as hell:

Askance · November 13, 2004, 5:56am

http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

That is all.

Blackacre · November 13, 2004, 6:02am

Yeah, funny as hell you cocksmoker. =D

Cheers!
BA

Bryan_Ekers · November 13, 2004, 6:08am

That was pretty fuckin’ funny, right up until the part about the convention in New york, and then I realized how bizarre it was for the Republicans to be in the South. Man, that’s just backward. I remember reading James Thurber’s My Life and Hard Times and the part about his (Southern) mother being one of the few Democracts in their (Northern) town and this being of some consternation to his Republican and politically ambitious father.

When did this big switch happen putting the Democrats in the prosperous industrial states and the Republicans in the rural heartland? After the Civil Rights Act?

Blackacre · November 13, 2004, 6:12am

Good lord my brother where have you been for the last 30 years? This “big switch” happened in the last 30 years, and it wasn’t a big secret. Pick up a book, surf the internet. Sweet jeebus. =D

Cheers!
BA

Bryan_Ekers · November 13, 2004, 6:23am

Can I have a response from a nonidiot, please?

Blackacre · November 13, 2004, 6:27am

Can I? =D

Cheers!
BA

Guinastasia · November 13, 2004, 6:46am

Well, I hope I’m a “nonidiot” (though some may disagree!). Basically, the switch began in the 1940s, I believe, with Strom Thurmond’s “Dixiecrats” and the Civil Rights Movement-most of the South broke with the Democratic party on desegregation and such.

Bryan_Ekers · November 13, 2004, 6:59am

Hmmm, I’ve heard of the Dixiecrats, and reading up on them it looks like if they’d been a bit less obviously racist, they might have lasted a little longer as a viable (if regional) third party. Aside from Thurmond, how many Dixiecrats ended up migrating to the Republicans, and was it enough to cause a major change in the Republican platform, at least where the South is concerned?

sleeping · November 13, 2004, 7:43am

From Wikipedia:

The post-war emergence of the United States as one of two superpowers and rapid social change caused the Republican Party to divide into a conservative faction (dominant in the West and Southeast) and a liberal faction (dominant in New England) – combined with a residual base of inherited progressive Midwestern Republicanism active throughout the century. A Republican like U.S. Sen Robert Taft of Ohio represented the Midwestern wing of the party that continued to oppose New Deal reforms and continued to champion isolationism. Thomas Dewey represented the Northeastern wing of the party that was closer to Democratic liberalism and internationalism. In the end, the isolationists were marginalized by those who supported a strong U.S. role in opposing the Soviet Union throughout the world, as embodied by President Eisenhower. However, this development did not represent the end of the story. The seeds of conservative dominance in the Republican party were planted in the nomination of conservative Barry Goldwater over liberal Nelson Rockefeller as the Republican candidate for the 1964 presidential election.

Goldwater’s electoral success in the Southern states, and Nixon’s successful Southern strategy four years later, represented a significant political change, as Southern white protestants began moving into the party, largely in reaction to northern Democrats’ support for the Civil Rights Movement - although the major civil rights legislation of the 1960s was supported by a majority of Republicans in Congress. Simultaneously, the remaining pockets of liberal Republicanism in the northeast began to die out as the region turned solidly Democratic.

mhendo · November 13, 2004, 4:16pm

Bryan, you might like to take a look at this book. It’s a fascinating read, and should answer a lot of your questions about the switch.

SteveG1 · November 13, 2004, 4:29pm

Wow. This fuckthesouth person has some issues. The South used to be Democrat. A part of the reason was because many of them blamed the Civil War and the Reconstruction on Republicans in the North. They were/are not as upset about the war as they were/are about the carpetbaggers, scalawags and outright thieves that the Reconstruction brought. Maybe the Dixiecrats were a reminder of things most Southerners wanted to leave in the past. Maybe, as conditions got better and life got better, Southerners saw Republicans as allies in attracting more business. The South, in general, places importance on land ownership and being allowed to keep what they have. That is part of the Republican idea or image that because you did well, you are entitled to enjoy it. However there are still people who despise Repubs and Yankees in general because of the Civil War and Reconstruction.

Evil_Captor · November 13, 2004, 5:40pm

SteveG1:

Wow. This fuckthesouth person has some issues. The South used to be Democrat. A part of the reason was because many of them blamed the Civil War and the Reconstruction on Republicans in the North. They were/are not as upset about the war as they were/are about the carpetbaggers, scalawags and outright thieves that the Reconstruction brought. Maybe the Dixiecrats were a reminder of things most Southerners wanted to leave in the past. Maybe, as conditions got better and life got better, Southerners saw Republicans as allies in attracting more business. The South, in general, places importance on land ownership and being allowed to keep what they have. That is part of the Republican idea or image that because you did well, you are entitled to enjoy it. However there are still people who despise Repubs and Yankees in general because of the Civil War and Reconstruction.

C’mon. The Dixiecrats were a fucking racist pig-dogs who pandered to the South’s lowerst fucking mouth-breathing inbred redneck morons, who constitute a majority in most Southern states, and the southern Republicans are the exact same creatures in a slightly altered suit.

mhendo · November 13, 2004, 6:17pm

Don’t hold back. Tell us what you really think.

Tim_T-Bonham.net · November 13, 2004, 6:51pm

Well, after he signed it, LBJ remarked that it’d probably be 20 years before the south voted for a democrat again.

He seems to have been pretty accurate.

Tuckerfan · November 13, 2004, 7:44pm

Damn, that’s some funny shit.

Bruce_Daddy · November 13, 2004, 8:19pm

Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?

SteveG1 · November 13, 2004, 9:48pm

Like I said, most of the South wants to leave the Dixiecrats on the trashpile of the past, where they belong. Having lived in the South (Texas) I can assure you that most of them are not Deliverance people.

akennett · November 13, 2004, 11:37pm

Yeah, funny. About as funny as a root canal.

Washington…Jefferson…Henry…hell, we don’t even have to leave the Old Dominion to shoot this one down.

You want to bring up NYC in reference to the revolution as making the “Blue States” the real America? Go to jail. Go directly to jail. NY was a den of stinking, no good, Tory bastards. Fuck 'em then, and fuck 'em now.

Where were the first European settlements in the present day US? Hell, where were the first English settlements? It sure as shit wasn’t New England.

panache45 · November 13, 2004, 11:51pm

Hey, what’s wrong with being a cocksmoker? (well, so long as there isn’t actual fire involved)

Incubus · November 14, 2004, 12:42am

I miss the Grapist

Too bad he wasn’t around, he could hook up with BlackAcre. They’d get along great. They’d go out on a date, and he would repeat everything she said (in purple) followed by “You’ve been graped by the grapist!” and then she would start screaming at each other, suddenly their eyes would meet, and they’d start to make out.

Hmm, it would make a great comedy sketch!