Fusilli die

I’ve been cad-ding for the past days and googling around, with the idea to make a pasta extruder.
While a basic approach for extrusion for say - spaghetti - is dead simple, just hollow out the desired-width holes in a disc, I’m not sure how a shape like fusilli is made.

My assumption is that 1/3 of a twirl (for fusilli with 3 twirls) exists inside the actual die - but that’s impossible - since such a die would be impossible to machine.
So my second guess is that the insides have a different angle (like the ones for elbow macaroni) which extrudes the dough to escape at different speeds.

I’d really appreciate pictures or schematics, but i can’t find anything of use.

tl;dr - why is fusilli twirled and simply not an Y?

Generally, spiraled shapes (like springs), are extruded straight, then given a twist by having the extruded material hit a deflector as it exits the orifice.
Here’s a video of a spring machine in action: MAX FS50 CNC spring forming machine - YouTube

I may be misunderstanding you’re asking, but if you google “pasta extruder,” you’ll see a bunch of examples.

beowulff: i see, but i’m not sure how that would apply to the extrusion head. fusilli always comes out “twirling”, so if there’s a “deflector”, it’s on the inside?

@tom: what makes fusilli pasta twist inside the die, and not simply come out as a long Y? (how is the die designed to impart the twist?)

found this, can’t see a lot inside though: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

It’s simpler than you might think:

That’s fusilli col buco and likely isn’t what the OP is aiming for.

Neat. I’m going to try that one of these days, but I’m still curious about spiral extrusions.
I’m specifically talking about these.

The shape of the hole (aided by the elasticity of the dough) affects the properties of the extruded section - if you extrude through a curved slot, for example, there is a tendency for the dough to extrude faster at the centre of the arc than the ends - and so it curls into shell shapes.

If you have a slot that’s Y-shaped, but with each of the arms curved in the same way, this imparts a twist.

You can just about see it in this video - from about the 1:30 mark:

I suspect the pasta dough behind the dies is being pushed forward with a twisting motion (it’s in a cylinder that is being rotated on its central axis) and the dough is sticky enough that the twist continues as it’s extruded.

I’m glad that there are good answers coming. The chances of someone knowing this is a one in a million shot.

You mean like this?

It seems to be in several parts. And there seems to be funnels at the ends of the “Y” which would halp make it extrude faster, imparting the twist.

eta: That’s on the image the OP mentioned above.

I know the video, but there’s still no info on the insides of the die.
so you’re saying the die is simply cut in the Y shape, and there are no wedges inside (ie, the inside has exactly the same shape as the outside), and this is all done by the shape?
or, I don’t see what you’re referring to.

:smiley:

Do you have kids? Do they have one of these? You could maybe see if you can get a twist with the play-doh, or push some through the die while twisting it yourself to see what the result is. You can always try next with some pasta dough.

I think rotating the dough while pushing through the Y-shape should do it, but I’ve never made pasta.

Let us know what you figure out - this is interesting!