Not surprisingly, Yivo made a number of promotional appearances with some of schkler space babes to promote schkler film. There are pictures on schkler Facebook page. Schkle also has a MySpace page- they’re worth looking at just to see schkler interests.
Juast watched it…
I liked the “missing episode” even better, even if it did induce an epilepsy fit.
Still, I rate BBB well above BBS, and I have to say I had a great time watching it.
I’m really, and I mean REALLY, REALLY DRUNK, though. Got to be taken into consideration.
"“All I remember is a Blinding light, then a searing ass pain…”
“the light! It blinds! The ass pain! it sears!”
Wanna rewatch it, but I gotta chime in against the “Leela and Fry should be in LOOOOOVE now!” complaints.
One point of the Lars story in BBS was that Leela and Fry have potential to truly connect and find romantic love. But the other point is that Fry has a lot of growing to do before he will be able to be the kind of partner that Leela needs.
And even that isn’t guaranteed- consider that our Fry will never have the experiences that “Fry as Lars” had. Hopefully, he will have analogous experiences such that he finds himself, matures, puts the needs of others first, becomes more responsible- in the way that “Fry as Lars” did while working with Leelu the Narwhal. But he isn’t that guy yet.
For the show to just now put them together as a couple would not produce a relationship that would work.
Not only would it not work for the characters, it would not work for the show. The show (movies) would be boring with Fry and Leela as a couple. O.K., the show would find other crazy future wackiness to keep from being boring, but Fry and Leela’s relationship would be boring.
Consider Fry and Leela of the “Fighting Mongooses Universe”- boring. Nobody wants to watch a show with a guy who gives a girl a diamond studded scrunchy. It is far more entertaining to watch a show with a guy who gets beat up at a Neil Diamond concert by a guy named Scrunchy.
Sure, the Colleen relationship comes right on the heels of the realization that maybe he could win Leela’s heart (and Leela does call him out on this at the end of the story, and in the beginning Bender delights in the awkwardness of the Colleen affair, pissing Leela off in the process- so it is hardly ignored in the script) but, really, Fry is not a guy who gets laid all that often. For the opportunity to present herself at the Jumbotron, it makes more sense for him to go for it than for him to refuse.
I never thought about that- that’s a good explanation of Fry and Leela’s relationship. Of course, the main point of his failed relationship with Colleen is to provide a humorous juxtaposition with the later Yivo storyline- Fry is turned off of a polygamous relationship, but he later becomes the advocate for what is basically a galactic-scale gangrape.
Good explanation, bienville. However, I don’t have a problem with the fact that Fry banged Colleen. I wouldn’t even have a problem with him casually dating her. I have a problem with the fact that he fell in love with her.
Meh. The character believing he is in love is far from evidence that he truly is in love in any deep meaningful way.
Here we got a lonely guy with an inactive sex life who finds a girl who is actually willing to, not only have sex with him, but actually be good company to him. Easy for the lonely guy to react with “I’m in love!” extremely early on, before the two of them truly get to know one another.
The “true love” in this case is quickly shown to not actually be true love.
Oh, random note: Did anyone else feel a twinge of sadness/guint when Fry said:
“Sorry Bender, robots can’t go to heaven.”
Strongly disliked this part:
[SPOILER]Killing off Kiff just so they could bring him back with “magic”.
Horrible plot device, just plain lazy writing that is way below the talent present on Futurama. Killing a character should only be done if the character is gonna stay dead. I’m o.k. with allowing the audience to think a character is dead a la the episode when Fry (and Leela) get stung by the bee- but truly killing a character with the full intent of bringing him back through means that defy the rules set out by the universe of the story is just plain lame (getting around this by having Kiff brought back by the being from the other universe is flimsy at best).
Didn’t even really do much to affect the plot except for opening up the possibility for the Zap/Amy affair- which I really hated to see happen- really hurt Amy’s character, and Kiff’s sense of betrayal is something that can’t now be glossed over. Any story dealing with that relationship is now burdened by having to deal with a major violation that served for nothing other than a few cheap jokes.[/SPOILER]
For me, the strongest episodes are the ones where Fry and Leela’s relationship deepens - Parasites Lost, Time Keeps on Slippin, The Why of Fry, The Farnsworth Parabox, The Devils Hands are Idle Playthings.
Fry and Leela break up and it’s mentioned in passing. Fry and Colleen break up and he is depressed enough to enter the space anomaly to another universe?
It’s not a “but they were in looooooove” wail so much as feeling a little ripped off at the whole “yeah by the way, the subtle, growing relationship between Fry and Leela that we’ve been developing since the start of the show? That didn’t work out.”
I agree with all the complaints above. At times, it felt like they were just trying to recycle or reference as many gags and characters as possible, without adding anything new. The Grand Midwife was a good example. It was actually kind of funny when they hung a lantern on it: “I have five jobs, all of them grand,” but the repetition of the “Now you do X - it’s not part of the ceremony, I just had a Y,” was just sad.
Generally it didn’t hang together well. Now, it is Futurama, so there were plenty of times we were laughing, or more often turning to each other and grinning. But by the high standards of the show, this was on the low end. I much prefer BBS.
I think in the end the “point” of the show was made by Bender, with his Bizarro Corinthians reading - real love is messy and screwed up and includes lots of negative emotions and problems, so what they had with Yivo wasn’t really love. Or something.
The first hour was awesome. I thought it was going to be a great aliens versus humans plot like “War is the H-Word”. But no, it turned into some crap about alien dating and alien heaven (although the Mattress Isle joke/orgy was hilarious).
These Futurama movies are almost worse than no new Futurama.
Man…
You’re saying what we’re all afriad to admit…
We all want to love it so much, but it’s just not as good…
It was OK. They could have dropped the Colleen story, which didn’t go anywhere. (Though I guess thematically it tied into the whole one person loving many people theme with Yivo.) David Cross was funny as Yivo, and didn’t know it was him till the end credits. Deathball ruled. There were a few good lines.
My problem with both the new movies is that a lot of the humor is “Hey, remember these guys? Well, here they are again!” Hopefully that’ll stop in the next movie.
I don’t think they were trying to make that point at all. That was just Bender’s version of things, which explains why he would go out of his way to make everybody in the universe miserable just so he could be with Fry. Bender always thinks everybody is as insecure as he is.
What? Come on - BBB was a bit of a miss but BBS was on par with the very best episodes of the series (which are The Devil’s Hands are Idle Playthings, The Sting, Luck of the Fryish, and Jurassic Bark, in that order. I fit BBS either right before or right after TDHAIP.)
If you didn’t like Bender’s Big Score, I’m curious what your favorite episodes were. I’m also curious how many times you watched it. I had to watch it multiple times, first to dull my hyper-critical eye, sharpened by 4 years of anticipation, but also because it’s a time travel story, and not everything makes sense until you see it in the context of what comes later.
Totally disagree. The writing wasn’t nearly sharp enough.
In no particular order (other than chronological):
Mars University
When Aliens Attack
Fry and the Slurm Factory
Brannigan, Begin Again
Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love?
How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back
The Deep South
The Problem With Popplers
War is the H-Word
The Cryonic Woman
The Day The Earth Stood Stupid
Time Keeps On Slippin’
I Dated a Robot
Roswell That Ends Well
The 30% Iron Chef
Crimes of the Hot
The Why of Fry
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
The Sting
The Farnsworth Parabox
Bender’s Big Score is easily and substantially inferior to all of those, in my opinion.
Can you elaborate? I thought it started kind of weak and the jokes didn’t all work, but it had heart - the main ingredient in all the best episodes, IMO.
I thought it was okay, nothing special though.
The next film looks really interesting though. A Dungeons and Dragons themed one! Awesome.
I thought Bender’s Big Score was decent, but well below the standard set by the series. Although I only watched it once.
My favorite episodes (not in any order) are…
The Series Has Landed
Love’s Labours Lost in Space
Fear of a Bot Planet
My Three Suns
When Aliens Attack
The Problem with Popplers
War Is the H-Word
Amazon Women in the Mood
Parasites Lost
Time Keeps on Slippin’
Roswell That Ends Well
Godfellas
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
That’s one of the things that’s consistant with Futurama, though. One of the recurring themes of the show (either intentionally or unintentionally) has been that horrifying monsters aren’t always that horrifying and that we shouldn’t be so quick to judge. The horrible Cthulu/mindflayer/crustacean alien? Oh, he’s the ship’s nebbishy doctor. The 1950s type movie alien who wants to destroy humanity? He’s the TV news reader. The tenticle blob that easts people? He’s just a harried blue-collar husband and father. Melvar? He’s a loser who lives in his parents basement. The horrible sewer mutants? They’re really Leela’s loving parents. It works on an individual level too. Yancy isn’t a bullying conceited jerk who wants to steal Fry’s name. He’s a man who never got over his brother’s disappearance, and names his son after his brother, so the brother he loves will be remembered.
It works the other way too. Loveable grandmotherly Mom is really an evil ruthless businesswoman. Zapp Brannigan, the hero of the Doop Navy is really a lecherous buffoon.
So it fits within the Futurama universe that a horrible mind altering tenticle monster from another dimension is really just a lonely creature looking for love.
Personally, I liked BBB better than BBS. I liked BBS, but it seemed to be too filled with cameos just for the sake of cameos…it was like, “Oh, lets make sure we put these characters in.” It also had a convoluted time travel plot that was confusing and destroyed the emotional impact of some of the shows of the series (the Luck of the Fryish and Jurassic Bark).