Game of Thrones 5.06 "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" 5/17/15

I can’t remember; did Olyvar’s testimony make it clear that he was bedding Loras as a prostitute? Because that would be two strikes against him.

My point was more to the fact that Littlefinger owned a brothel, possibly more than one. Would shut down his income, which is not something Littlefinger would take kindly to. Although he’s gone on to bigger things, he’s not likely to ignore that loss of income.

Ditto. She was one of my favorite characters.

Whether or not he would have legally defined it as especially, Tyrion knew it would be wrong for him to j dost on his husbandly rights.

I think it was said early on that the iron bank always get bach harshly at debtors. So even if they don’t expect Stannis to pay back the debt accumulated by the Lannisters, they might do it to keep their reputation so that no other indebted nobleman or king would try to forget to pay them back.

Mentioning the Talibans is fitting. These people are fanatics, and backed by their gods. Their best self interest will play no part in their decision. They’ll punish the sinners regardless of the consequences.

Ser Kevan stated he wouldn’t take command of the army and was returning to Casterly Rock.

Yes, I noted that whassisname was conveniently granted a kingsguard to watch over him. Which means in fact that the whole family (queen of thorns included, if Cersei wants her to stay, it’s quite easily done) is under the custody of Cersei or her (supposed) minions the fanatics. Which makes acting against the Cersei quite difficult for the Tyrells.

I guess he was promised some kind of leniency in exchange for his testimony. It’s not like he has any particular reason to protect Loras, or is in love with him, or faithful to his family or whatever. And given his job title, he’s not going to get out of it by just denying he slept with Loras. So, his best chance is probably to throw Loras under the bus.

We’re not in 2015. Sex was accepted the moment Sansa agreed to marry Ramsay. She had to consider it before agreeing, and obviously decided it was a worthy price to pay for her revenge. Nobody in the whole continent (except maybe the wildlings) would consider this a rape, but simply a duty. Her liking it or not is completely besides the point. Especially when it comes to high borns who need heirs.

However, I somehow expected Ramsay to display a different behaviour than usual wrt his valuable wife, and to refrain from his usual ways. Silly me. In fact, the first time they met, I wondered if she hadn’t really caught his eye (rather than him playing games as usual and pretending to be attracted to her). Silly me again.

Regardless of how you calculate the legal ramifications, being forced to have sex that you don’t want to be having is a human experience that is pretty much the same regardless of the circumstances, don’t you think?

[QUOTE=BlackKnight;18377411
The amount of sexual violence against men in this series is mind-boggling.[/QUOTE]

And yet for all the cocks we’ve seen removed, everyone gets so up in arms about Ramsay and Sansa’s honeymoon being a bit “rapey”. Seriously, Geoffrey spent like 2 seasons beating the crap out of Sansa and no one batted an eye.

In typical Game of Thrones fashion, they’ve set several groups of characters on a collision course:
Sansa/Boltons/Reek/Stanis/Brienne and Pod at Winterfell
Cercei/Tommen/Sparrows/Tyrells in Kings Landing
Danny/Mormont/Tyrion/Harpies in Slavers Bay
Jaime and Bronne/Sand Snakes/Martells in Dorne

So I think at this point, we can expect one massive battle in the North
and at least three massacres (at least one being a shocking game-changer) over the next four episodes.

Plus I think some sort of zombified version of The Mountain is going to reappear.
I think at this point, Arya, Varys, Brans party in the Deep North, Jon Snow and probably Littlefinger are now more or less safely on the periphery until next season.
This is all pure conjecture on my part.

Really? We were all so pleased for her?

I have lost track of what this argument is about. What is your actual position?

I don’t get how anyone was expecting much more from Ramsay Bolton. Was anyone expecting a bed full of roses, and a bottle of wine and roomful of candles from him, wooing Sansa Stark into romantic submission to his charms and wiles as a plucked her delicate flower?

Portraying a rape, as disturbing as it might be, is not CONDONING rape, which I think is a confusing concept to a lot of critics of the end of this episode. Clearly, Ramsay Bolton is not being made out to be any sort of hero.

With eunuchs, the cock is usually left on, it’s the balls that are removed. Easier (and less prone to infections) to leave the cock on and just remove the balls. That’s what castration usually means.

Varys has no cock.

Yes, he told us that they took his “root and stem” but that was for a magical ritual. We haven’t been told what kinds of eunuchs the Unsullied are. But for simple issues of survival rate, it’s likely that they have cocks but no balls. The survival rate for penectomy is very low without a modern hospital to perform one in.

The unsullied are ridiculous because no one want warriors who never go through puberty.

But it seems pretty clear they are missing penis and testicles, if they still had penises Dany wouldn’t have asked in a shocked fashion why they visit brothels in the first ep of the season.

The Iron Bank thing doesn’t make a lot of sense right now.
Keep loaning out money to armies more powerful than the defaulters’, until one eventually pays you back everything, is a terrible plan. I would consider only losing their original stake to be one of the better final outcomes.

Hopefully there’s more logic to this in the books and it will come out in the show with time.

Hence my use of the word usually. Twice.

Why would real world survival rates apply in Westeros? If the show says they have no cocks, they have no cocks. Let it go.

Could you remind us where it was stated in the show? Because I have no memory of anyone saying that.

I’m not sure what doesn’t make sense about the Iron Bank backing Stannis. They don’t think the Lannisters will pay back their loans, they think Stannis will. That’s it.

The US has overthrown governments for seized assets, I’m not sure why powerful banking interests wouldn’t do so if given the opportunity.

Well for the people who honestly are quitting because the show is too brutal…I get it. (Not on this one but…) I quit Nu BSG several times because I just felt beat up after the end of an episode.

I think he was put up to it by Littlefinger, who is trying to pit the Lannisters against the Tyrells since they are the two most powerful houses at the moment. That is his MO, pitting two powerful forces against each other and then sucking up to the winner to gain status. It will probably not work out well for Oly now that he has served his purpose.

When they made the loans they must have thought the lannisters would pay them back too. If stannis also then proves to be unable or unwilling to pay, then they need to find a yet bigger fish and spend more money on costly wars trying to get back the previous loans, and fingers crossed that this army doesn’t turn on them.

The difference with the US is that the US has its own army; it’s a very different situation if you can just directly threaten force vs “we’ll make yet more loans to another army”.

Anyway, if you’re talking about the crown (not the lannisters per se) and that stannis will be better at paying off the crown’s debts…maybe. The immediate situation is he’d be head of a crown still in serious financial difficulty + needing to pay back his own loan + whatever damage this new war would have done to the economy + some well-known saying about the imminent arrival of winter. And that’s assuming stannis wins.

But “they ollways get their guld”.