Frankly, considering the standard MO among the noble houses is to marry off their children for various alliances, every Lord and Lady are probably a little bit Targaryen/Lannister/Stark/etc. these days.
Wild-ass theory #2: Jon Snow is that actual Aegon and is going to go back in time to conquer the seven kingdoms.
Wild-ass theory #3: Dany goes back in time to bring the five abandon houses forward with their dragons to fight the [del]Thread[/del] White Walkers.
I don’t recall that being mentioned explicitly in the TV show.
I believe it is so according to other sources.
And i guess Tyrion will survive to convince Dany to leave Jon behind or perhaps he lies to her that Jon is dead to get her to leave after all is lost
Later when she discovers Jon is alive…she has Tyrion executed
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I think that’s probably right, although having it veer into romance wouldn’t surprise me.
Ooo, nice! I like it.
And yet she didn’t order Jaime to bend the knee. Curious.
Ah-ha, the Aragorn Gambit!
“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” - Lord Acton
“Power corrupts, and absolute power is actually pretty neat.” - Christopher Buckley
Yup. I’ve been saying that for years. I predict he will, tragically, have to become a Queenslayer as well as a Kingslayer.
Certainly happens in the real world.
I recall a part when listening to Dan Carlin’s podcast on WWI that back channel communications between heads of state was easy because they were all related. You can see it in this picture of King George V and his cousin Tsar Nicholas II (you can barely tell them apart). Kaiser Wilhelm was also first cousins with George (and third cousin with Nicholas I think).
So if they needed to talk to each other they could do so on familial grounds informally.
Probably true for most major houses, but the Targaryens are comparatively new to Westeros and interbreed a lot more so I wouldn’t be surprised if their genes hadn’t spread all that widely.
Didn’t the leader of the Golden Company already disappoint Cersei with his lack of elephants in Episode 1? That said, I could see Daario showing up as having infiltrated its ranks somehow and convincing ($$$) some faction of them to fight for Dany instead.
This seems pretty minor, but seriously, I think it’s best to not even hint at this stuff.
The HBO rating warning at the beginning was remarkable:
Language
Brief Nudity.
What? No extreme violence? No graphic nudity? What the hell is this??
The diplomatic issues in play seem really easy to solve. (1) Jon and Dany act as co-rulers, co-sitters-on-the-Iron Throne, like William & Mary. (They won’t have any children, so they will need to take steps to avert a War of the Westeros Succession). (2) Make The North a quasi-independent state with Sansa as its Warden, allied with but not subservient to the Iron Throne, with all the associated mutual aid treaties, etc. Easy peasy.
I think this was the first episode entirely set in a single location (and it’s weird to have all our characters bumping into each other). Not a single cut away to “Meanwhile at King’s Landing/Essos/Braavos/Ultima Thule/Beleriand/R’lyeh/Fordor & Tudor…”
They’ve done it at least a couple times. Blackwater was one. The fight at Castle Black was another.
I really don’t think Jon wants to be king. He didn’t want to be Lord Commander. He didn’t want to be King of the North. When Dany says that he now has a claim to the throne, he gives her a look like “Do you really think that’s what I care about?”
Yeah but he needs to give her more than a look. It would help matters a lot if he were crystal clear on that point.
[Moderating]
Whack-a-Mole, tapdancing around what you can and can’t say doesn’t do anyone any good. If you can’t mention something, just don’t. It doesn’t work to mention that you’re not mentioning something, because that’s mentioning it.
I was thinking of a scenario along the lines of Daenerys & Jon/Aegon VI marry and nominally share the Iron Throne and he is King of the North in his own right, but lives in the North and only occasionally visits King’s Landing for ceremonial occasions. Assuming Daenerys is infertile Jon/Aegon VI takes a concubine to produce an heir. The North ends up an nominally independent realm in a personal union with the rest of Westeros.
I think it’s more a case of the Golden Company finally giving the HBO budget guy something to be happy about.
“Jesus Christ! I draw the line here! No elephants!”
Jon’s being Aegon VI seems to provide an obvious solution; in return for renouncing his claim to sit on the Iron Throne, and supporting the ascension of Daenerys I, she grants the North independence and recognizes him as Aegon I of the North or, even likelier, recognizes Sansa I, and he rebuilds the Night’s Watch to await the next visit by the undead.
George RR Martin was not very original in his names, huh? “The North.” Humans have inhabited it for over ten thousands years and they never gave it an actual NAME. The Vale. Stormlands. The Summer Islands. Winterfell. Aegon the Conqueror landed here, let’s call it… King’s Landing! Christ.
Has it been suggested that when the Night King comes for the Three Eyed Raven, it will really be Arya?
It’s really hard not to form theories about this show. I am not looking forward to the next episode. And I am looking forward to the next episode. It’s gonna be brutal.
If they kill the Night King there won’t be any more White Walkers or undead ever again, and no need for a Night’s Watch. (The Night King was the original White Walker created by the Children of the Forest, and if he’s destroyed all of the Walkers he created, and all of the undead they raised, are also destroyed.) If they don’t kill the Night King, they’ll all be undead themselves and there will still be no need for the Night’s Watch.
I wouldn’t be so sure.
Do we really know that, either?