It’s not that their characters were taken to a logical conclusion. It’s that the plot reached a logical conclusion. Everything that happened fit in with what we knew about the characters. And indeed we knew that Frey was unhappy with Robb. So while the deaths were a shocker, it wasn’t a shocker merely for the sake of shocking, which I think this would be –
And that’s my point. The Red Wedding fit everyone’s characters. This would be a hard turn out of the blue for Jamie.
Except Pyat Pree thought just the opposite: since dragons were reborn, magic (at least his) had returned to the world.
Theon was not Theon. Theon was Reek. A broken being. He didn’t even want to be rescued by his sister when she attempted to do that. He’s has been broken in a different way. He might have had some redemption here, but under there, Reek is always there…
Plus, incredibly stupid, as he’d gain nothing, achieve no purpose at all, and then just end up being killed by all the other people in attendance.
I’m betting Jamie is going to have to fight Zombie-Brienne.
I dont really think my The NK and his army are elsewhere theory will hold-up…after all it will be a teeny letdown for the audience…BUT it makes perfect tactical sense. Why should the NK risk himself and get his main army shredded by some 75% when his lieutenants can just raise a new army and attack WF with that.
A tangential thought I had recently, not worth it’s own thread: if you binge watched GoT but only the scenes that lead to where we are at the moment, what could you fast-forward through?
You would definitely keep all scenes with Jon, and with Dany. If you skip over anyone who’s dead now…you save about 90%. But that’s probably excessive.
But you could easily skip anything involving the Sand Snakes, and every scene of Theon being tortured (about 20 hours right there.)
I’d say that’s a pretty safe bet. Tormund having to do it would be funnier, but that’s not what the writers are going to go for.
I feel like you could skip the majority of Robb as King of the North scenes and not be lost at all. You could also probably trim Dan’ys story line a lot. Keep everything with Drogo, trim Qarth to like, two scenes, And condense a lot of the Slaver’s Bay stuff. (I’ve honestly forgotten how many cities she goes to before she gets to Mereen)
I’m not seeing it. Jamie couldn’t beat Brienne when he had two hands. He’s not going to beat zombie Brienne with one hand.
My guess is that Jamie and Brienne will go down fighting together, and if there’s a ‘shocker’ it will be that a dying Brienne asks him to behead her or something so she can’t come back from the dead. Or maybe Brienne does that for Jamie.
But I do think we will see some of our characters wind up coming back as part of the army of the dead. The obvious one to me is Tormund, if it happens at all. And maybe Podrick.
Here’s an interesting idea - Bronn shows up, not planning to kill Jamie or Tyrion at all but to join them, but he runs into zombie Jamie and winds up killing him with the crossbow - thereby doing what Cersei wanted, but for totally different reasons.
I don’t think Jamie will die before he meets up with Cersei again.
Yeah, a few of the cast are still wearing plot armor. Jon, Dany and Jaime being the main three. Probably Tyrion and Arya as well. Definitely The Hound. And if Bran is to be believed, he is still protected as well. All that armor will disappear by Episode 8, of course. But for the nonce, these folks still have plot lines to finish.
I don’t agree that Jon or Dany have plot armor. Jon’s entire arc leads him to this battle, him dying in it totally fits. Dany’s leads very close to it, or at least her dragons do.
Jaime’s story very well could just be about redeeming himself as an honorable man. His arc is pretty much closed on that front.
Why is Bran protected?
What I don’t get are the ones who say Sam AND Gilly AND Little Sam have plot armor. Why? Sam’s story job was to get the info on L+R and how to use dragonglass, and he’s already passed both along. And Gilly and babe never had any importance in the show, other than a reason for Sam to man up some.
I think because we believe he is critical to defeating the Night King. But perhaps he dies but Arya gets him with her secret weapon? Or someone else gets a lucky shot with a bow?
Just because he’s critical to defeating the Night King doesn’t mean he won’t die in the process.
Bran has said the Night King’s goal is to erase human memory, ie the Three-Eyed Raven, ie Bran. If he goes down in this battle then it’s game over and the Night King has no reason to march any further south immediately. If Bran gets away then there is still The Chase.
Jon and Dany still have things to do or realize. Either of them dying now would be a waste of 7 1/2 seasons. OK, maybe Jon if he takes out the NK at the same time, but I doubt it. Not until Episode 8.
Doesn’t the Citadel (and its library) represent another way to maintain a collective memory?
The show has been setting up the conflict between Jon and Dany for 8 seasons. It has finally been revealed to both involved in just the past two episodes. It would be dramatically absurd for that conflict to immediately be resolved in the very next episode by the convenient death of one (or both) of them. One or both could be dead by the end of the show, but their conflict will take at least a couple more episodes to resolve.
I mean, if the NK kills Bran, and the army of the dead wins the war, then destroying the citadel will be just a technicality.