Game of Thrones 8.03 "The Long Night" 4/28/19 [Show discussion]

The constant shots of all the main characters getting overwhelmed by the dead and absolutely nothing happening to them made the whole thing ridiculous. When the dust settles and the only people standing are all the important characters you know this isn’t the old GoT.

If resurrection man is Beric, than I think that’s it.

I don’t know who is dead because I couldn’t see shit even with bright up and lights off.

Wow…that did not go the way i thought it would so i guess in that its a surprise. They misdirected my expectations so much they actually won normally.

Well…the problem with that is we go back to Throning and i was hoping to have a running battle to the end. Also they misdirected us by making us think they’d lose this whole time by ‘leaking’ that Winterfell was destroyed.

So onto are they alive?: Sam, Gilly, Little Sam…and most important Jons dragon? I think Jons dragon is dead.

I know a lot of you didnt like it and i can already hear the howling on the AV Club but I quite liked it. The sneaky Arya in library scene was kind of “Well this is padding”. And I actually called for NK to die this way. Just thought it would be the last ep and Arya would be a faceless ghoul. Im glad it was Arya. Makes sense since she seemed to have a destiny.

Not the best episode, IMO. But I’m glad the threat of the White Walkers is over. It just wasn’t that interesting of a storyline. Scary, but not particularly interesting compared to what Game of Thrones does best. Much more opportunity for good storytelling now that they can focus on human vs human conflicts.

So Arya is Azor Ahai now?

I’m pretty Jon’s dragon (Rhaegal since I’m a GoT/ASOIAF nerd) is alive, both since he didn’t get an obvious death scene (like all the other dead characters) and because I think we saw him in the preview for the next episode.

I don’t know wtf even happened to Jon’s dragon, one second it looked like it was winning the fight with the undead dragon and the next its crash landing.

That was … unsatisfying. I feel like they all should have been dead dozens of times over.

By the end there it was like…well theres only two ways to go. And man…had they killed everyone but say, Jon…THAT would really have been a stunner. For a few minutes I thought they really were gonna kill everyone.

The “Im being overwhelmed and then saved at the last second trope” (Or, Thor arrives In Wakanda-IW spoiler not Endgame) was definitely overused.

I think that was Drogon after he shook all the dead off. I believe Rhaegal killed the Night King’s dragon (I think the head was ripped off) and then the Night King raised Rhaegal at the end (fighting Jon Snow) at the end.

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I am very tired of overly-long battles that are badly lit and confusingly shot and/or edited. Best part of Infinity War was having battles in well-light conditions. I agree with the criticisms of it being tedious and having the Night King being a load-bearing boss (not quite the right trope but I can’t think of an exact match) means the audience spends minutes just sitting there guessing who’s going to get the one-hit kill.

Like all prophecies, Im just fine with that being a load of shit. LIke i said earlier…Im fine with people having a sort of destiny like her, and Clegane maybe… But once you start twisting prophecy to your own needs it becomes shit.

all IMO of course.

Drogon shook the dead off; I’m pretty sure we didn’t see Rhaegal again after he crashed and Jon was on the ground. According to my TV closed captions, the dragon Jon was fighting at the end was Viserion (the captions would say “Viserion roars”).

Also, I’m almost positive I saw two dragons flying in the preview for the next episode.

Eeek. Hadn’t thought of that. That sucks.

There was some question whether there might have been some other way to beat them in the first half, but once the dead got over the walls and overwhelmed everyone it was obvious the only possible way to win was to take out the Night King. So that was a given. The only question was the misdirection in thinking Jon was going to do it instead of Arya.

Dude on reddit said this:

No, right? NK was going to kill Bran with that sword…so…no…right?

Only one question.

Where the hell did Arya drop from?

Plus, I thought the dragon looked pretty decomposed. Rhaegal would have been freshly killed if it had been him.

[headcanon]Bran knew to sit under that one Weirwood branch that extends within reach of the window of the Winterfell tower she was in earlier. [/headcanon]