Game of Thrones 8.03 "The Long Night" 4/28/19 [Show discussion]

See #734

I read somewhere that 1) the producers didn’t mean for it to be Wun Wun, but they did use the same actor. Well balls. How they gonna use the same actor and not intend for everyone to assume it’s the same character? That shit wouldn’t fly if they cast Arya, Sansa, & Bronn with the same actor and just expected us to know they are three different characters.

Totally flickin’ zombie Wun Wun. Further discussion is poo.

Also: I’m totally stealing at least two Bryan Ekers puns in this thread.

Poor Wun Wun. You’ll always be remembered. :frowning:

It’s because there is a scarcity of giants in the Screen Actors Guild.

I’m going to say that unless there was some clear communication to the audience that we were supposed to recognize em as Wun Wun, then it wasn’t Wun Wun.

That actor, Ian Whyte, has played White Walkers, The Mountain in season 2, Dongo the Giant in seasons 3 and 4, and Wun Wun in seasons 5 and 6, as well as the unnamed “giant wight” this season. I don’t think they are all intended to be the “same character.” His main qualification for playing these characters is that he’s frikkin huge (7’5").

I think you mean Wun Wun the wight

The producers said the giant in Bran’s vision from episode 1 of this season was not necessarily Wun Wun. That giant was missing an eye, but it was the wrong one. This giant was missing the correct eye, which seems like a detail they wouldn’t add unless they wanted it to be Wun Wun. I’m convinced, and I won’t stand idly by while everyone trashes the memory of dear Wun Wun by pretending it wasn’t him.

Actually, in this episode he’s credited as Giant Wight #1, which is odd since I don’t recall other giant wights.

However, given that the same eye is missing I agree that it’s supposed to be Wun Wun, even if his body should have been burned after the Battle of the Bastards. Maybe they didn’t have enough charcoal briquets.

And Sansa was worried how they’d feed everyone.

I have now seen the episode twice more, this time making sure I got it in full 1080p resolution and dimming the lights more in my house.

  1. I was wrong. This episode is amazing. Fully amazing and I now admire what they did here.

  2. It is lit properly. I must have had a non-hd level stream coming through before. I also got it straight on my tv instead of through a chromebook via HDMI cable.

So, I was wrong. The episode is amazing and a lot easier to see with proper resolution.

I still think Arya’s coming out of nowhere was only OK. I would have preferred to have a bigger fight in the end with the NK.

I have a well calibrated 4K LG, Apple TV 4K, dark room. Everything else looks great on it. I tried it again in the middle of the night when demand is low. No better for me (although the extinguished Dothraki and dragons in the moonlight looked awesome both times).

In terms of tactics: has anyone mentioned the apparent total lack of plans to make sure fallen troops get burned to make sure they at least don’t bolster the enemy forces?

How would that be accomplished on the field of battle?

“Time out, we have to burn some bodies!”

You would have to plan and train for it. Have everyone rigged up with flammable gear of some kind, for instance. Make some kind of flamethrower (also good against the walkers). Tyrion managed to burn a bunch of enemy ships at sea; this seems like less of a lift, honestly.

Given that one line of your defense is a flaming trench, and since the battle is at night you need torches everywhere, this seems like an excellent way to set your own troops on fire while they are still alive.

Rather a different problem, since his ships weren’t mixed together with the enemy fleet.

Burning your dead without burning your surviving troops along with them would only be feasible if there are large areas of the battlefield where all your troops have already been killed. And if that happens, you’re pretty much fucked anyway.

Can a giant wight be melted down and reforged into a new giant wight?

Like where Jon was standing when the NK did his “RISE!” gesture?

I witnessed the blacksmiths of Qohor attempting it, but when their magic incantation turned out to be:

You spin me wight Wun, baby
wight Wun, like a wecord, baby
wight Wun, Wun Wun

it became clear they were trying to pull a fast one. Dead or Alive indeed…

If there were two giants in the story, I guess we should call them Wun Wun One and Wun Wun Two.
They look similar because of the eyes.
Wun Wun One lost one, Wun Wun Two lost one too.
And they both died in the end, but what were their earlier battle results?
Wun Wun One won one, Wun Wun Two won one too.

Riemann, very clever!

But wasn’t it already way too late for any of that by the time this episode aired?