Game of Thrones S3 - open spoilers

Fuck you! More naked Jon Snow!

Yeah. I guess the problem is that Martin can’t let her do her own thing for an entire book without a POV (except for Feast for Crows… because split narrative) because she is such a focal point of the narrative. Lot of her story is waiting around before she can actually strike and disrupt everything else.

Agreed. If the last two books had only 2 years of waiting, I think fans would think they weren’t as good as the 1st 3 books, but there wouldn’t be the level of complaining. It’s more, we waited 5 and 6 years for this?!

That. Almost nothing happens in the last book. Tyrion wanders around, a prince of Dorne appears, wanders around and dies, Dany roams around in her palace, Theon is kicked around, etc…

There are really a minimal number of plot advancing events.

“Game of thrones” might end up being one of those rare cases where a filmed adaptation is better than the original book, IMO.

Why not? The show isn’t solely intended for male hetero viewers.

Anyway, I think there’s way too much gratuitous nudity in this show. I’d rather see events than boobage. I can have as much boobage as I want on the internet, while I’ve only one hour of Game of thrones/week. I’ll take a Tyrell grandma scene over a whore scene any day.

Just, please, not a grandma Tyrell scene with boobage (no matter how she looked in the 1960’s.)

What are your estimates as to how far we’ll get by the end of this season, when (during this season) major events will happen, etc?

Is Robb’s murder this weekend?

Will we see Joffrey get offed, or will that not be til next season?

Other big events that aren’t coming to my mind?

I’m very alarmed to read that Martin has estimated the last two books are going to come in at at least 1500 pages each.

Episode 9 is called The Rains of Castamere, so that is presumably the Red Wedding. Joffrey’s wedding is probably towards the end of next season.

Ooof, just finished the last book. It was like passing a bowling ball towards the end. He desperately needs an editor. I really don’t see him finishing this series before HBO gets to the end of what he’s already written.

Ygritte’s death this season. Maybe the Hound’s “death.” Tywin, Joffrey, and Lysa next season.

Gendry being taken by Melisandre is a switch. I wonder where they’re going with this.

Stand in for Edric Storm, almost certainly.

Did Melisandre know who Arya is? If so, I think she’d have taken her for Stannis. As far as them meeting back up, was that a future book spoiler?

I fear I’ve fallen madly in love with Rose Leslie’s Ygritte, which is going to make me hate Jon Snow so much more for abandoning her.

Well, it’s not like he has much choice. And then it’s not too long before she’s dead anyway.

I sure hope Martin didn’t have other plans for Gendry.

If he did, the showrunners know about them.

:frowning: I’ve already emailed Rose Leslie’s agent inquiring how much it would cost to have her follow me around imitating Jon Snow.

From the previews, Gendry learns who his father was next week (courtesy of special guest star Maury Povich as defrocked afternoon maester Morri Vopich). I always assumed that plotline was building to a bigger reveal.
I’m guessing he’s somehow going to find his way back to the Brotherhood because I really can’t imagine Martin being finished with him yet, though this being Martin he might be planning to bring on 4 new Baratheon bastards, Tywin Lannister’s clone, and Daenarys’s wetnurse all as major characters in the next book.

:smiley: That was pretty great. As far as him abandoning her, it does happen immediately after she personally slits the throat of an innocent bystander, right? As sad as it is, I like their storyline - it perfectly exemplifies the theme in the books that reasonable, good-hearted peopled wind up having to kill other reasonable, good-hearted people simply because of social, cultural, or geographical circumstances.

Regarding Gendry: my unspoiled husband thinks that Gendry and Arya will wind up ruling Westeros together. Which I think shows how influenced he is by common fantasy story tropes, and (given their stories through book 5), how opposed to them Martin is.

Well, it isn’t completely impossible that they could.