Also the Others are really ugly on the show. One of my favorite stories in the books was the one about the Stark who shagged an Other and fell under her spell, and his own brother had to defeat him. No one would want to shag the White Walkers. They look like frozen versions of the skinless anatomy models you see in labs.
Martin told the showrunners the broadstrokes all the way to the very end. Yes, I 100% guarantee the show will lap the books. I seriously doubt the final book is on the shelves anytime before 2020. I bet there’s a 50/50 chance Martin never finishes the series period owing to health, disinterest, and/or dithering.
Spoiler for something that wasn’t in the books yet, potentially a big deal:
Apparently the HBO viewer guide synopsis for last episode said that that was the Night’s King. It’s since been changed. So, either that’s an error in the synopsis, or they just aired a potentially huge spoiler.
Well it WAS wearing black.
Did he? I thought he just talked about it with his mom and promptly got whacked. Did the messages get out? Were the ravens given letters signed in triplicate? Also legitimize usually means “Jon Stark,” I honestly don’t remember the exact goal except to try to cut Tyrion’s claim off (as if he had anything to do with it).
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It doesn’t seem that terribly spoiled to me but I don’t know. At least it didn’t turn out he was Hodor leading the WW army and also is Keyser Söze.
I’d hope he hit a target in the last 8000 years and got a polo or something.
There are spoiled box spoilers of a spoiler that even spoiled people who are all the way spoiled. Way meta.
Re: that spoiler. I guess it was changed on the HBO site. My guess is someone didn’t understand the differences and made an honest mistake by using the wrong words.
I’m not enjoying the changes this season. I’m not a book purist, but I don’t feel that the showrunners get it any more. Last week’s rape/not rape fumbling really turned me off. Changes are fine. Changes can actually even be better (Jaime and Bronn, for example), but it just is striking me as changes for changes’ sake. Like it’s more important to make it their own than to tell a story that makes sense and stays relatively faithful to the source material.
Plus with all these changes… people are freaking out, saying “Wow, the show is spoiling the books now” kind of thing, but I can’t help but wonder if the WW stuff was completely made up (even if it was my head canon anyway). After some of their other liberties, who’s to say that this and future “What the hell was that?” episodes are going to be based on things GRRM has told them or just invented by them? So I’m not too worried about the show spoiling the books, as we’ve seen how much they deviate already.
The showrunners know how it all ends, so they get a huge pass from me. In the Martin’s outline, perhaps they thought that the pacing was way off and this guy needed introduced sooner. That would not be the first time a character intro has felt way too late in the game ala Aegon.
I hate Aegon’s introduction so late (as well as being another character thought dead, but is alive) if he’s legitimate. I think most evidence points towards him being an impostor, in which case I’m pretty ok with his introduction.
She did, unless anyone has a better explanation as to why he was hanging out naked in her quarters with her.
I dunno. His wife has been dead for how many years? And we are to assume Tywin has been chaste since then? I don’t buy that.
I think Tywin was more concerned with how unsubtle Tyrion was with his whoring.
I don’t know if they needed to be boxed originally, but I don’t want to be the guy who responded to a box with a spoiler. Also:
There is no spoiler. Except on a car.
Aegon = Aegon the would-be VI? His aunt has the army. Or had, who knows.
Tywin: isn’t it more that he hates money+sex than sex?
Love the name “Illiteratti” ROFL!
As for Petyr/Littlefinger’s motivation, remember he said “Chaos is a ladder.” The more the kingdom is in flux, the more opportunity he has to rise. Also remember Lord Varys’ statement “Littlefinger would burn this kingdom to the ground if he could be king of the ashes.”
Petyr is ambition incarnate.
So, the NightsKing.
Wonder if the show is going to start with more book spoilers. Like stating outright that Jon Snow is Lyanna and Rhaeghar’s son?
I agree. That and Tywin actually falling in love with Shae. Otherwise it would mean Tywin is just randomly pious on sexual morality (which be odd given what happened with Tyrion’s “wife”). Either way it’s strange that Tywin never remarried and tied begetting another male heir. Unless of course he’s impotent or sterile.
I go back and forth so much about Aegon. I thought he was fake right up until I read The Princess and the Queen, or, the Blacks and the Greens from Dangerous Women. Dragons only take to one rider, who must be a Targ. Dany has three dragons. One for her, one for resurrected, exiled R+L=Jon, and an empty one. (lalala I can’t hear you about Greyjoys and their dragon horn. Fuck that shit, unless Tyrion ends up using the horn). So who rides the third? Aegon’s the only other Targ we know of.
Plus I started really thinking about “The Mummer’s Dragon.” I was always thinking that the dragon was a mummer also, but I’m starting to think it’s straight up possessive; it means Varys’s dragon, not the actor and his fake dragon.
At least that’s what I think today.
Could Bran warg into a dragon? Something I’ve been thinking about since reading the books. I can understand that dragons might be resistant to your typical warg, or we would have heard tales of dragons controlled by wargs. So I imagine that it’s considered unthinkable. But it’s been established that Bran is not your average warg.
Imagine what a dragon could do if it was fully under the control of a warg. It would be like taking a jet fighter with unlimited ammunition and gas back to the middle ages.
I actually think warging into them is the only way to really control them.
Euron’s horn seems legit.
There is also the rumor that Tyrion is the result of rape of Joanna (was it Joanna?) Lannister by the Mad King.
But I think Aegon is a good a guess of a Targaryen as any.
Holy Shit! I think you just blew my mind because I literally did not even consider that… and now that Bran is greenseer and will likely have mega-warg powers… whoa…