Gamergate

But now I know that the people making games are having sex. They’re not proper nerds. Plus there might be semen in the code or something.

Don’t worry. I’m pretty sure American and Molyneux are still celibate.
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I will never understand this. A beautiful woman walks up to you and goes “I love The Terminator and Mad Max and I’m interested in learning more about this Star Wars thing” and your response is to yell “FAKE GEEK GIRL” at her?

I guess I’m doing it wrong since I married her.

And Literally is in the lead, with This Is Not A Joke close behind…but here comes Whoosh on the outside! Could be a close finish, folks!

Molyneux is chipping his future offspring out of a giant pixel cube,

Are you a moron or something? Those are actual opinions held by actual “gamers.” Have you really never heard of the Fake Geek Girl controversy? I know RNATB doesn’t hold those opinions, but there are people that do and he was mocking them (as was I).

Then what, pray tell, is the discussion? That someone wrote a low-budget free video game you aren’t a fan of? That someone cheated on her boyfriend? That people in a given industry tend to sleep with each other? That small non profit events are badly organized? These are non-topics of zero importance.

The story here is that someone is being illegally harassed. The rest of the story seems to be a bunch of people claiming she deserves it.

Nothing but harassment. It’s the only thing to be discussed. Don’t worry about it – you have more energy invested in harassment than I have in anything else so you win.

That’s nothing novel. John Romero made everybody his bitch a while ago. My old hard drive still chafes from the Daikataning *sans *lube.

You sounded like you were taking RNATB’s post at face value.

Yeah! You showed her, what with her “caring about” things that “actually matter!”

Just like a chick, amirite?

You got it, bro. Let’s fistbump and then look up celebrity nudes.

While I am very possibly a moron, I am at least pleased to see that I’m not the only one who thought you were responding directly to RNATB. Glad you weren’t.

Well, I was serious about the semen.

Can you please explain what this is about?

Jophiel is sad-faced because we won’t admit he’s right that the game is objectively terrible, and won’t even admit he’s right that this is worth discussing, instead pointing out that whether the game is objectively terrible has nothing to do with whether it’s okay to write reviews of the game consisting of rape fantasies. Sad-faced, I tell you! Now he’s got a full-on petulance going on.

**Jophiel **would like to discuss how sometimes indie games are praised more for what they attempt than for the quality of their execution. He believes that Quinn’s game *Depression Quest *is an example of this, and is annoyed that any attempt to start a discussion along those lines is being drowned out by the people who are talking about her harassment.

However, I would say that having the sort of discussion that he wants to have is impossible at this point. The well is too thoroughly poisoned. GamerGate only exists as a story outside the narrow boundaries of the indie game scene because of Zoe Quinn’s harassment. Otherwise most people never would have heard of it at all.

If **Jophiel **is actually interested in discussing the indie game scene and how games (worthy or not) are promoted within it, I would urge him to start a thread in the Game Room using a less-toxic example.

Good point. Let’s only talk about this.

I’m going to take the “No” position, that it’s not okay. Now it’s your turn.

You are 100% correct (both in my motive and about this thread now in general). I won’t start a thread on it because I’m sort of burned out on the topic after the previous day.

That and because I’m too sad-faced :wink:

Not to triple post, but this was actually on track for the thread:

4Chan has put out a rebuttal (image link) and a breakdown of the supposed “plans to terrorize” (image link). Sorry that they’re images, that’s how they were posted elsewhere. Wish the rebuttal was a direct link to the website so the links it uses would be active.

As I said earlier, I’m fairly ambivalent about the IRC thing since logs are easy to fake and neither you nor I know who any of these IRC handles actually represent. So I’m equally “eh” about the counter-claims (I haven’t even read the scribbled over logs in the second link) but figured that if Quinn’s logs were relevant then the response would be as well.