Gas in California is special. It has to be more expensive. Does it really need to be that much more?

Continuing the discussion from How are gas prices in your area?:

California has large cities in valleys surrounded by high mountain ranges. It has a long dry season with no rain. One of many things we do to reduce smog is to mandate a special formula for gasoline. Not every refinery makes it. Itis reasonable that it would be somewhat more expensive.

It seems to be about $2 / gallon more than the rest of the country. Is the added expense really that much? Is there some price gouging going on? The difference does not seem like it would change that much as the price of crude oil goes up.

That’s not all due to the formula; I think higher taxes account for most of the bump.

At least a big chunk of it. The state tax on gasoline in California is 73.6 cents/gallon, which is the highest in the U.S. (I don’t know if there are county/municipal taxes, or to what extent general sales taxes also impact the overall price.)

Why do you think gasoline costs $12/gallon in Norway even though they are drowning in the stuff? Road usage tax, CO2 tax, sulphur tax, etc.

This cite, from the California Energy Commission, shows that, as of July of this year, when the average price of a gallon of gas in the state was $5.31, $1.42 of that was various taxes and environmental fees.

Here in AGW, What’s that? Floriduh our gas taxes are 40 cents. A buck less than CA’s.

I don’t say that with pride. CA is about the only state w a fucking brain in its government. FL has nothing but sludge skeaze and greed up there.

But Illinois (thanks for the link!) has a gas tax almost as high (70.40) and the gas there is currently $4.72/gallon.

Note that last- that is about 10% or so.

Yup; we don’t have the various environmental and emissions fees that California bakes into their gas prices.

FWIW, in Cook County, where 40% of the state’s residents live (including me), gas is more like $4.99 in suburban Cook, and around $5.19 or more in Chicago proper.

It’s the same here in Ontario, where federal and provincial taxes traditionally account for much of the cost of gas. Thanks to sane governance in Ottawa, the reviled carbon tax on gasoline has been eliminated and the federal excise tax on gas for individual use is temporarily suspended.

Here’s a map of existing U.S. oil pipelines. Note that California is pretty much on its own. Separate oil terminals, separate refineries, separate formulation and additives, separate distribution, separate wholesalers, the whole works. Illinois, by contrast, is networked into the rest of the U.S. oil supply.

I think our unique requirements have a lot to do with it. I remember a few years ago refineries would go down for unscheduled maintenance (which seemed to rotate across companies) and prices would spike. We can’t get any from outside.
On the upside, I remember when I first moved here, and when I visited my parents in LA 50 years ago, the local news would always have an air quality report, mostly bad. No more, except when there are fires. At the edge of Joshua Tree National Park there was a pair of pictures, one showing LA from the '30s or something, nice and clear, and one showing it in the '60s where the smog blocked the view. When I was there in the early 2000s you could see LA again.

From CEC: Estimated Gasoline Price Breakdown and Margins