Hmm… then we’d still have to wait for the Gomorrites to show up (did we ever figure what Gomorra got socked for, or was that just collat damage to take out Sodom?)
And how do you “homosexualize” a land? Will there be a hearing at the zoning board? Will it make my property tax assesment go up if suddenly I’m on homosexualized land? I mean, I have heard about “queered data”, but I’m unclear on this other concept.
In any case, Holy Moses with bacon and cheese on it, that is just an astoundingly fucked up line of thought on the part of this “Rabbi”. :eek:
As **Alessan ** mentions, there are a lot of both Jewish and Christian outsiders for whom the state/people of Israel is not a country/group of human beings with the right to a life and the pursuit of happiness, but just a prop in the big movie in their heads about how their God is better hung than everyone else’s. What next, Phelpsing the funerals of people killed by Hamas? :mad:
Well, first we start to fix up the less desirable properties. Then boutiques and coffee shops move in. Then your rents start to go up and we price you out of the area completely. It’s like large-scale gentrification…
I’m reminded of a very recent thread we had-just a few days ago, about an ultra-Orthodox group in Jerusalem bitching and threatening a group who wanted to organize a pride parade in Jerusalem. One wonders if this guy is related.
I did not say it was not. Please do not think I implying anything. I wanted to verify something I never heard of before that had a chance of being a repeated tale and not fact. I think the reality was close enough to what jayjay said to gain a ‘partial truth’ if this was Snopes.
Reading the articles, it sounds as if the concentration camps were worse for the 5000-10000 gay men then the Jews or Gypsies. It was just on a much smaller scale and for decades they were even less sympathetic group to the general population. Now it is a piece of obscure history. I knew the Germans rounded up male homosexuals for the death camps. I knew nothing about them not being liberated but only transferred.
We still do not know how they were treated in the prison system. I would guess better than the concentration camps but still very inhumanely. The 175 law was not repealed until 1969. That is the scariest thing I read last night.
All Israel needs is a special facility catering to the needs of citizens who feel that the Holocaust is preferable to tolerating gay marriage. Maybe a door with a sign on it reading “Complaints Department” or something.
I appreciate the info on gays remaining jailed after the conquest of Germany. I am, of course, appalled, and, for some reason, surprised. At the least I would hope that conditions in jails were better than in the camps.
There was actually a documentary called Paragraph 175 discussing the treatment of Gays during and after the Nazis… In it, they interviewed survivors who were at the time in their 80’s… Their stories were heartwrenching…
I think it won several awards and was narrated by Rupert Everett… I remember getting it through Netflix…
I express very little moral outrage, or moral glee, over what has happened in the past, and even less for what has happened before I was born. Oddly enough, most of the human experience, for better or worse, has happened before I was born. I can wish the past was different, but I can’t change it.
I reserve my outrage, or glee, for the present, when it can, possibly, make a difference.
Maybe, but to put it in perspective, Britain didn’t repeal its sodomy law until 1967, and sodomy laws weren’t found unconsitutional in the US until 1993.
(did we ever figure what Gomorra got socked for, or was that just collat damage to take out Sodom?)