Bonzo’s high hat sounds like a fookin’ viper strike. He does everything with so much snap in his wrist. He’s the Barry Bonds or Bruce Lee of drummers - unleashes full force instantly through superfast execution of proper mechanics.
An old thread, but only today did I just realize, while listening to the radio, where the “Misunderstanding” riff came from. Sly and the Family Stone’s Hot Fun in the Summertime. Wait a few seconds for the bass riff to reappear and repeat. And, sure enough, in the Wikipedia article about “Misunderstanding” it states this was one of the songs Phil Collins was inspired by.
Isn’t there another Zepplin song that was in the news recently for being a rip of a Spirit song?
(Since this thread has been revived)
So you’re saying it was a…misunderstanding?
You mean “Stairway”? That’s a bit of an old story, but was in the news again maybe a year ago. The court found in favor of Zeppelin, as I think in that case they should have. But, yes, in case you don’t know, Zep has plenty of songs that were not properly credited when they were released. They are kind of known for this.
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This was mentioned back in 2013 I just noticed. I even acknowledged it! Doper thread amnesia strikes again!
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Now go compare and contrast Trampled Under Foot with the Doobie Brothers’ Long Train Running.
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The songs don’t sound similar to me at all, but obviously the lyrical plot in both songs is almost the same: boy waits in the rain for a girl who doesn’t show. But Phil Collins discovers the girl was with another guy, while Plant realizes too late that he got the meeting place wrong!
Goofy ending for Zeppelin, sad ending for Genesis.
Not a lot to compare, to my ear. A chuggy groove and a standard set of blues changes, but not much more. There’s no funk in LTR, while TUF is all about funk.
I remember noticing the Doobie Brothers - Zep connection back in eighth grade. Besides the basic funk* groove (melody and rhythm), there’s the “Talkin’ 'bout love” repeated lyric in each. Not the same song, but noticeably similar.
*I agree that the Doobies don’t actually pull off the funk.
Correction: The Doobies’ repeated lyric is “without love.” Still quite similar – both songs are about operating a vehicle (car or train), with a brief refrain to remind us what the song’s REALLY about.
It’s cool; they aren’t trying to pull off the funk. The LTR groove is a strummy acoustic groove played up the neck, with a drone string going to keep that chug going. The drums behind are a simple rock beat, ISTR. TUF has an organ and guitar, each keeping the G note chugging through the groove, but with Bonzo funking out with John Paul Jones the entire time.
It’s the use of a drone tone that makes them sound similar. I hear you about the Lyrics and such, too.
Fool in the Rain:
Recorded November–December 1978, released August 1979
**Misunderstanding:
**Recorded November 1979, released March 1980
They both ripped-off these guys 
Someone said above that Plant and Collins were friends. I wonder if someone said to them, “Each of you guys go write a song with this basic riff about a guy who gets stood up by a girl.” These two songs would be the result! (Total speculation, of course)
Probably irrelevant But Misunderstanding sounds like a solo Collins song that didn’t make the cut on whatever prior album he did. I’m pretty sure that’s absolutely true of “Please Don’t Ask”
His first solo album was in 1981. But style-wise, yes, it could have gone on one of his solo albums.
You have it backward. Fool in the Rain came out in 1979, on the In Through The Out Door. Genesis’s “Misunderstanding” came out in 1977 or 78
Wrong. Misunderstanding was on Duke, which came out in 1980.
Fool in the Rain was on In Through the Out Door, which came out in 1979. It was a single in 1980, but before Duke was recorded.
Just to note that you’ve revived a zombie thread, and are correcting a post that was made almost 21 years ago, by a poster who hasn’t been seen here since 2005.