Um, no. Just because you may have seen an alt-righter use the term does not mean they invented it or have even really made it their own.
That Wiki article makes very little reference to alt-righters or even to conservatism more broadly. It does however include this bit:
If we follow the link to Helen Lewis’s Wiki profile, she is described thusly:
Maybe next time, before you lecture someone on their word usage, you might consider actually taking a moment to look up the word in question to make sure you know what the fuck you are talking about. :dubious:
ETA: I might add that you would do well to take Lewis’s advice to heart. This is exactly what I’ve been sounding the alarm about on this board: this “callout culture” that constantly looks to score PC points, never mind how many moderate voters it might turn off.
Sure, but every woman I have been with, without exception, has reported that circumcised guys need it (or at least want it) jackhammer style. That tells me an awful lot.
Look, if and when we get to the point as a society where we stop doing this to anyone, male or female, I will definitely not have any desire to make anyone who was born before that societal change feel bad about what they had taken from them. But until then, it is unfortunately unavoidable to broach this subject if we are going to debunk the idea that (as BigT claimed upthread) men who were circumcised have not been harmed in any way.
One last note about virtue signaling - the concept undoubtedly exists, for lazy people to indicate their decency with empty words, but by far its most common usage today is the alt-right/SlackerInc usage - to dismiss any criticism by liberals that they don’t like.
If it’s at all possible to gently persuade circumcised men not to circumcise their sons, without calling too much attention to what’s been lost, I think that’s the preferred option. Ignorance is bliss. Unfortunately, simply saying the procedure is “painful and unnecessary” doesn’t convey the full gravity of how bad it is. It’s not just painful, but extremely painful, even tortuous. It’s not just “unnecessary” but actually harmful. When the gentle approach doesn’t work, forcefully shoving the Red Pill down an expectant parents throat may be the last ditch option.
I have a friend who is getting married soon, who is stubbornly insisting that if he has a son, he will have him circumcised. Despite all my efforts to discuss this issue, it’s like talking to a brick wall. If my friend does end up having a son, my last ditch effort will be to issue this ultimatum: If you cut your son, the day that your son turns 18, I’m going to share with him all the information on circumcision I’ve tried to share with you. It will then be up to him to decide how that influences his relationship with you. Circumcision is commonly accepted now in our society, but can you be absolutely sure that attitudes won’t change two decades from now? I don’t have the power to stop you, but I feel so strongly about this that I will jeopardize our friendship in an effort to persuade you not to do it.
I know I should have given up hope long ago, but some childlike hopeful part of me still hopes that folks like SlackerInc might one day realize “hey, maybe body-shaming and insulting strangers I’m claiming have been harmed isn’t the best way for me to convince those individuals that they were greatly harmed by circumcision and the practice should stop” or something like that. But I know I probably take that hope way too far sometimes, and I apologize when it assists in a thread hijack or derailment.
So, you are saying you aren’t just an extremist on the internet, you are also a dick to your “friends”? Dude, some battles aren’t worth fighting.
You know what, I have a friend who has fallen way down the alternative medicine rabbit hole since having a child who is severely autistic. She travels to Washington to testify about how dangerous flue shots are. She gives her son all sorts of medicine that’s not medically indicated, and subjects him to all sorts of tests (MRIs, etc.) for flimsy reasons. Two primary care physicians have “fired” her because they can’t deal with her demands. I don’t try to convince her to stop randomly treating her son. It’s not going to work, it won’t do him any good, and it just makes for an unpleasant conversation for both of us.
You are a complete asshole. You have a “discussion” with a friend, and when you don’t get total capitulation when it comes to something that is none of your fucking business, you resort to extortion??
Your experience is subjective. You can swear by your genital configuration for enjoying sex, but believe me, no one who is already nipped will know if it’s any better or worse. They also don’t remember the pain. What’s the point in screaming about an unreversable process?
Why anyone bothers with the slackidiot with the example of the podcast masturbation thread, I do not understand. he will keep you all dancing for hiim for 50 more pages.
the mentally ill person, sadly he is the sincere obsessive.
If it helps, if Blalron ever does approach the 18 year old–and he almost certainly won’t–the kid will immediately say “Get the fuck away from me you fucking weirdo!” before Blalron has a chance to pull out the pics of cut and uncut penises.
Huh. I’ve had a lot of women tell me that a lot of uncut guys basically masturbate themselves with their foreskin while having sex and they get almost nothing of the action. Your masturbation techniques described above would seem to bear that out. Be honest, were these women actually complaining about the “jackhammer”?
“Was it good for you, baby?!? Compared to your last circumcised sexual partner!”
“Yeah, I liked those small, delicate movements of the foreskin over the glans.”
And so now the thread is fully about what the troll and the obsessive want to talk about, with the masturbatory dick fantasies serving the male assertions about the female preferences - in the usual categorical fashions.
and dancing after the pipers, one goes down their path…