Is there a valid estimate of George Bush’s IQ? Did he take college boards, etc?
I have a sneaking suspicion that he is smarter than the media gives him credit for.
Is there a valid estimate of George Bush’s IQ? Did he take college boards, etc?
I have a sneaking suspicion that he is smarter than the media gives him credit for.
I’d guess it’s like Nigel Tufnel’s amp.
It goes all the way up to 11.
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His detractors can’t go after him with the typical “Mean spirited” stuff so they go after his intelligence. His public speaking style isn’t all that great, though.
It also depends on your definition of “Intelligence”; safe to say the rhodes scholar inhabitant before did a number very, very stupid things.
And snopes take.
I like these two from the Snopes thing:
Yeah, I buy that. not!
By the way, that Snopes number for Clinton (182) would put him in the top 137 people on the entire planet. (Based on 6B people, 100 mean and 15 sd). That is, if my math is right.
Oh, I don’t know. His prepared speeches, at least, have a very nice rhythm. Somewhat light on content, but a very nice rhythm.
Just to clarify, that’s not Snopes’ number…that’s the number in the report which Snopes says is bogus.
Well, let’s see: Bush was a fighter pilot…definitely requires good eye-hand coordination and brain processing. I’d give him >125 for that alone. Also…graduate degree from prestigious Eastern Ivy League University…must be worth something…
Al Gore, whose intelligence is held in wide esteem (by some)… never made it through grad school…apparently not very good at math/science/biology, but esteemed as a great “ecologist.” Hmmm.
I don’t know…GB Jr. seems to have all the hallmarks of a reasonably intelligent guy. The idea of Clinton baving a 182 IQ seems rediculous…that would put him in the class of an Einstein, J.S. Mill, etc., not to mention myself and perhaps even Cecil…
So do my video games.
Failing at being a business man (with the exception of the Texas Rangers, but like his presiency, he wasn’t running the show) must be worth something too.
This is ridiculous. Your guy won, be happy about it, and enjoy your four years.
Your video games have absolutely nothing to do with real flying. Fighter pilots have to learn a ton of stuff. By the time you make fighters you have to take aerodynamics, some engineering, meteorology, navigation, instrument procedures, fighter tactics… And you have to finish in the upper half of the class all the way through to make it to fighters.
Aside from an MBA from Harvard and SAT’s that put him in the 120’s easily, despite being a slacker, he also scored in the top 5% on his Officer’s Candidate exam.
I heard over on the Fox network that “Geroge (sic) is a Super Genius”. You can’t get more authoritative than that !
Video games require hand eye coordination, tis true, but mistakes in the Real World ™ with aircraft get you killed dead, quick. There’s no “save” feature in Real Life, as far as I know. There’s a ton of extraneous bull#$%^ to becoming a fighter pilot, the old saw about “The paperwork must weigh the same as the aircraft, then you can fly” is still a joke, but it’s getting there.
Maybe speaking style wasn’t a good choice of words; he seems somewhat ill at ease during formal ceremonies. Getting better though, with practice.
I am reluctant to admit this but… I never knew that George W. Bush was a fighter pilot (though I think I read somewhere that he flew a plane for the National Guard while dodging the draft during the Vietnam conflict). What type of aircraft did he fly?
Also— does it really take a high IQ to be a fighter pilot? Any reliable figures on the average IQ’s of fighter pilots??
No. It doesn’t take a high IQ to be anything. A person could be a very good fighter pilot and still have a merely average or even below average IQ score. Most of the questions and exercises in an IQ test have nothing to do with the skills needed to be a fighter pilot, or to perform any other real-world job.
You dont have to be too smart to be a fighter pilot
Remember the chimpanzee who was an astronaut?
Doctor Goo Fee wrote:
No, his dad was a fighter pilot, George H.W. Bush, Bush the Elder. In WWII. Got shot down and picked up by a submarine.
Lamia, are you speaking as a fighter pilot, or speaking out of your third point of contact?
I’ve worked closely with hundreds of military pilots, and while they have a unique capacity to piss people off, it was entirely unrelated to their intelligence. There is a ton of academics involved to being a pilot. I’ve seen them do stupid things like anyone else as well.
Flying? Sure, any idiot can probably wiggle the stick and push buttons. But there’s quite a bit more to it than that.
I’ll bet next months paycheck pilots are above the norm in intelligence by a wide margin.
Anyway.
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George Bush Sr. was NOT a fighter pilot. He flew a TBM Dive Bomber in WWII, and was shot down on a bombing run. His gunner was killed, he survived.
George W. Bush WAS a fighter pilot. He Flew the F-102 Delta Dagger, which was one of the first of the ‘Century Series’ fighters that could go something like Mach 2. The Century Series of fighters also had a very poor safety record, and was a handful to fly. Bush flew hundreds of hours in the F-102, and finished his service with something like 600 flight hours in jets. Not bad.
As for how smart Bush is, there are several corroborating indicators that he has an IQ in the mid 120’s, which is not genius but well above average. About the top 10% or so. His scores on his SAT’s were in the mid 1200’s, he received an MBA from Harvard, he flew fighter jets… I maintain that if a guy like that was your neighbor you’d be in awe of his accomplishments. But since it’s the President, those same accomplishments get him labelled as an idiot by his detractors. Go figure.