This isn’t about drinking and driving… stay on topic.
Oh, and holding up traffic (or the guys in the grocery line, or at the Subway counter) for your own self-satisfying reasons is being a dick.
I am staying on topic - reducing the argument to absurd levels. You are saying speeding is just another lifestyle. No - it isn’t. It brings danger to others on the road. Like texting and driving, and like drinking and driving.
What i’m saying is that driving quicker (or slower) is a lifestyle choice. It might even be deeper than that as it relates to one’s personality. Some people are only comfortable cruising through traffic at a certain pace (not necessarily a certain speed). It’s very difficult for some of us to hitch-on to the back of the traffic train and mindlessly follow the fray.
What you’re missing is that it’s not about getting to work x minutes earlier. I just don’t want to drive the same speed as you. I may not like your choice in music or your choice in porn, but i don’t try to make your life more complicated because of it.
I understand that you don’t share my perspective, and i’m cool w/ that. But just live and let live, man. I’ve got no problem with you driving whatever speed you want; just please move over and give me the same courtesy.
Now that is interesting. The number one argument that my ex-wife and I had about her driving was that she didn’t signal when she wanted to change lanes. And she’s from Indianapolis.
If traffic is moving 30 - 40 mph this is true - not if it is moving 10 mph. These drivers cause as much of a shock wave because when people pull in front of them (leaving reasonable room) they brake anyhow to preserve their massive amounts of space. Just like a twig in a stream, they cause an obstruction - and if you can get around them you get into a faster moving stream of traffic.
I’m not talking about people in the slow lane, I’m talking about those in the middle or fast lane.
When I go to LA I don’t see this behavior much, and traffic, while just as heavy, moves much faster. Limited access carpool lanes help also, I think.
You might have a point if someone was telling you to go 90. If I want to pass a line of cars and see a car on the left approaching at high speed, I wait for them to pass. It won’t take long. Pulling out in front of them and making them brake is a lot more dangerous than what they are doing. Sitting in the left lane and passing at a relative speed of 2 mph while cars back up behind me is also more dangerous than cranking it up to a torrid 70. Cite that the road is unsafe at that speed? If you car is, you’d best get it off the freeway.
And as for not liking that some people speed, unless you have a badge it ain’t your problem to enforce. The people who go 65 in the fast lane because no one should exceed the speed limit are the real dicks.
I don’t know if you could go any further off topic. We are talking about two pedals in your car. One is “go faster” and the other is “go slower.” I also use the cruise on long trips. You apparently haven’t noticed that while on cruise if you put your foot on the “go faster” pedal you will pass the car more quickly and then when you have done so and moved over to the right and remove your foot you will slow back down to the speed you have your cruise set on.
But by your logic, maybe the phone in one hand and the flask in the other this concept is too hard to coordinate. Maybe you only drive faster when you are drunk so you can’t separate the two experiences. I’m just trying to figure out how distracted/impaired driving equates to speeding up to let someone pass.
Also you keep saying “speed kills.” What speed exactly is that? Hit a tree at 30 and good luck. Should we all drive 15 just in case?
Can…can you read? It was in response to the idea that speeding is a life style choice. If you can’t stay on topic, don’t bother giving input. My point is that risky behavior doesn’t have any business in a moving vehicle, whether it is drinking and driving, using a phone while driving, or exceeding the speed limit given by professionals who actually know what the fuck they are doing instead of assuming you know more about the road and a safe speed than they do. If you want to put yourself at risk, I implore you to make this world a better place. But if you want to put others’ at risk you don’t have that right. That is why you get ticketed. You think we instruct our officers to moderate speeding because it is fun to arbitrarily impose limits? Or is it possible that there is a reason for a speed limit? If you don’t understand that you need your license revoked.
Voyager, your thinking on this is flawed - I am not the one causing danger by observing the speed limit, the speeders. I shouldn’t adjust my behavior (observing the speed limit) the speeders should adjust theirs. 99.99% of the time there is no reason for the excess speed. It is simply driving fast to drive fast. If you want to do that go to the race tracks. Driving is for getting from point A to point B.
I was with you until this part. Are you seriously saying you move with deliberate slowness when you then find yourself at the head of the line? Or am I misunderstanding?
Because that’s stupid. Why would you do that? Now YOU are the jerk. I, three cars back, can’t tell you are ‘revenging by proxy’ on cars I never even saw. I’m not the one holding YOU up. Why must I be ‘punished’?
When I am at the front of the left turn lane, I zip through. I try to set a good example.
And AnthonyElite? When people write articles about drivers that cause road rage? They’re talking about YOU - the self-declared arbiter of Right Driving. You’re not making it better, you’re making it worse. (And if Speed Kills, then sell your car and walk. 55, 65, 35-they’re compromise values, more often set by politicians than traffic engineers. And your tires aren’t going to EXPLODE in a FIREY BALL OF FLAME if you go 70. Sheesh.)
Well, if they can’t listen to reason, then I can at least take solace in knowing I’m making them quite angry.
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t control the speed limits. Make whatever case you think you can make, but don’t act like he’s pulling the speed limit out of his ass.
It’s hardly a radical proposition that we should obey traffic laws. Is he a self-declared arbiter if he wants you to stop at a red light?
Seems like you’re the one who’s taken it upon himself to decide which laws are just suggestions.
You have got to love a poster who gets 10 posts to each one he posts telling him he is wrong, yet we are the ones who don’t listen to reason.
“Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?” —George Carlin
Your are breaking the law in at least 45 out of 50 US states if you are in the left lane doing a speed less than the normal speed of traffic. Note “normal speed of traffic” is a different thing than the speed limit.
If other drivers are coming up behind you, you need to move back over into the right lane, you are impeding traffic. It does not matter that the other drivers are going above the speed limit, you are expected to move to the right and let the normal flow of traffic proceed.
I’m with you, Dallas Jones…but if I’m traveling at 10 over with the general flow of traffic and some prick flies up on my ass out of nowhere because he’s going 20 over, he can suck it.
That is one fine definition of assholishness.
Tony… why can’t you live and let live? No one is maliciously causing you harm on the road by traveling a little faster. You’re simply wishing to make folks’ situations worse by being pretentious.
Ohhhhhh, I see! So, if I go to pass someone that is doing 40 mph in a 65, and I am doing 65, and someone comes up behind me doing 100 mph, I should evacuate the lane at all peril? Get a grip - the purpose of the lane is passing, and as long as that is what I am doing - traveling faster than the right lane - I am in my rights.
Do you plan to, after passing safely and allowing plenty of room, get back out of the left lane and let the faster guy pass?
Yeah, but unfortunately I probably won’t get the chance. As someone above mentioned, while I’m proceeding far enough to allow room make my return to the right lane safe, the asshole will cut in front of the car I just overtook and pass me on the right.
But may god bless you for the consideration, my friend.