Thisis just the latest of a number of threads complaining about people not getting over the way the last US presidential election was settled. Each of the umpteen threads says pretty much the same thing, but at least it gets it off the poster’s chest.
Well, get a life, OK? If you don’t want to read election threads, nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to (Ref.: Gun Control threads, 3rd floor, Great Debates section). If you’re tired of hearing about it, there’s this marvelous invention called a “mouse” that lets you scroll right by them. You can even stop and chuckle at the participants if you like, but it is in no way an infringement on your precious personal freedoms, or even an imposition on your time, to have election threads show up on your screen.
Meanwhile, there is a topic many of us care deeply about, even if you’d rather not be bothered: the nature and importance of democracy. If that’s not important to you, take a moment to consider how it gives you the right to think it’s not important.
If that’s not enough, then for pity’s sake, get over it, and quit your whining about your precious board having things on it you’d rather not read.
This is life. This is reality. Deal with it. Good day.
Why don’t you just get over our not being able to get over the fact that you can’t get over the fact that your guy lost the election?
Practice what you preach, Chucklehead.
That isn’t what we’re not getting over, Shitforbrains. The way it happened is what should matter to us all. Only caring about if your man wins or not is the essence of not getting it. If you’re gonna complain, at least understand what it is you’re complaining about. If you can’t be bothered, then STFU.
Thanks for playing, and here are your lovely parting gifts. Our next contestant is?
Exactly. See, you’ve solved your own problem. Scroll past all those news stories about the supposed president. Scroll past all those irrational idiots telling you to get on with life. Scroll past all those lunatics who can’t understand why anyone would continue to whine about something that is now beyond debate.
Au contraire, it is exactly what you refuse to get over. Your guy lost. You cannot handle the fact that your guy lost, so you want to have long convoluted debates in which you insist he really didn’t and if things had been different (if, if, if) he would have won and blah blah blah blah and you go on and on and ON and ON and ON and ON until people correctly take you for no-life-having lunatics to be avoided just as devotedly as any other brand of zealot focused on something with little or no relevance to the current state of affairs.
I mean, it’s obvious somebody needs to get a life around here, but it ain’t me. And kindly take your unsolicited advice about what people should or should not read, and what they should or should not post, and insert it in the personal orifice of your choice. I read and say what I want, and if you don’t like it then YOU don’t have to read it.
Regarding the election, I promise to quit calling you and yours a bunch of whiners the very second you actually stop whining. Continue to whine and you continue to invite the appellation whiner. To this whole thread I react just as I do to the election issue: Boo-fucking-hoo.
Every time a GQ thread is opened which contains the name George Bush, one of you reality-deniers pops in with some crap about how he’s not the real President anyway or somesuch. Our customers cannot avoid your shit and still be active on this website.
So your entire premise, much like your view of the election, is factually incorrect.
But you MUST care, even a little bit, to even have opened this thread, much less post to it.
Jodi, or should I say Shitforbrains Jr., if you’re not gonna bother even reading posts before telling the poster he doesn’t even know what subject he’s posting about, then the Pit certainly is the place for you. If you’re not gonna even make an effort to try to understand what so many people are so worked up about, then don’t pull that shit anywhere else if you want to be taken seriously.
Supercilious, hypocritical, shallow, sanctimonious anti-intellectual, anti-democracy bastards, the lot of ya.
The problem is, it’s the same stuff over and over again, with all the new information coming out against it. Even had the SC allowed a full recount, Gore would have lost; that’s what the media recount showed. So you can whine and rage and cry regarding our ‘illegitimate’ president, but the fact remains that by any standard save the “had the weather been different” standard, Bush would still win.
And as far as weather being different:
Had 3,000 voters changed their minds in New York state, James G. Blaine would have been President in 1880. I don’t remember ever reading about Garfield being declared an ‘illegitimate’ president.
Had 10,000 voters changed their minds in Ohio state and 200 voters theirs in Hawaii, Gerald Ford would have been re-elected in 1976. I don’t recall people stating that Carter was an ‘illegitimate’ president.*
Maybe if Nixon hadn’t promised to visit every one of the 50 states in 1960, he wouldn’t have traveled to Alaska while suffering a cold, and therefore wouldn’t have been quite as pasty, lean, and sweaty during the debate the next week; he might then have won what was a very close election.
Maybe if Dewey hadn’t sat on his ass and listened to pollsters saying he had it in a walk, he might have hustled and actually beat Truman in '48.
If, if, if, if, if. Why don’t we simply write off every election? “I can’t accept this guy as my president, because if only my candidate had done such-and-such, he might have won.”
[sub]*Though I have heard him called a right bastard, which is kind of similar.[/sub]
[Edited to add forgotten footnote. -JMCJ]
I absolutely understand what many democrats were “worked up about.” I understood it last December, too. I’ve just lost interest in hearing the whining whiningwhining.
People can decide for themselves whether or not to take me seriously, based on the content of my posts. But then I try not to give them reason to dismiss me. I don’t, for example, continue to attempt to resurrect a subject that by any measure should have had a stake through its heart months ago. Nor do I take it upon myself to tell people what they should or should not read, or should or should not say.
As for you not knowing what subject you’re posting about, I begin to believe you need a remedial course in “Reality 101: Your Ass And A Hole In The Ground – A Comparative Study.” Gore LOST, Elvis is DEAD, and you need to get over it.
Oh, this must be one of those Democrats that rjung was telling me about in the GD thread. The ones with a “complete and nuanced view of the world” who “roll with the punches.”
See, Kimstu, this is why I don’t consider you “typical.” This is what you have to work against.
Heh. This just struck me as funny, given that in my reality, Bush is in office and harping about it doesn’t change that.
I got no dog in the “Who won the Oval Office” fight. But for folks to continue to complain about the way he got there, eight months into his first term, is kinda silly. Fix the problem (the butterfly ballot), certainly. I agree completely. But don’t bitch about the fact that he’s there. THAT is reality, and your bitching ain’t gonna change it.
Just curious – those of you who opposed Bush, if you got a refund check from the IRS recently, did you refuse to cash it on principle? Since the government is now saying it’ll have to borrow from Social Security to pay the bills this year, that move is looking really bad in hindsight. Did you protest it by not taking the money?
I love the coincidence that someone with a handle that defines revisionism (ElvisL1ves) is proposing more revisionist history. Despite the best efforts of the Clinton/Gore spin juggernaut, the most powerful bullshit generation device in recorded history, the result is what it is, and not amount of whinging is going to change that.
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Get.
Over.
It.
** Manhattan is correct. This raving is unavoidable, and worse, it is counter-productive. It is impossible to ask a question without some spin-addled zombie spouting the party line… “He’s not my President!” Good deal, so those aren’t your police either? Right? Good! Where did I leave that can of “Chemical Billy”… Whassamatta, lost your taste for pepper?
Ugh. You know, I don’t like the way the legitimately-elected Chilean government was overthrown by CIA-backed fascists in 1973. Should I just get over it? I don’t like the way the Ayatollah Khomeni squelched human rights in his country and enforced Islamic law in 1979. Should I just get over it? I don’t like the way the Taliban blew up those huge stone statues of Buddha and set about persecuting religious minorities earlier this year. Should I just get over it?
All these things happened and not all the outrage in the world is going to reverse them. However, if we bear in mind these horrible facts, we can stop them from happening again—possibly. I will kvetch about election theft for the next 3½ years and more. It’s not about my guy not getting in; it’s about preserving the way our government works. It’s theft. I don’t see how many conservatives can assert that a thief or a murderer should spend decades behind bars with no rehabilitation or even and diversion, yet feel that this theft is something we should just roll over and accept.
Oh, and as to those who feel that Bush was legitimately elected because the electoral votes eventually worked out in his favor: no. Bear in mind that Bush’s lackeys stopped the recount before we knew the result. His people were afraid he’d lose, so they took it to the Supreme Court before the actual result was known. It’s best to hedge your bets when possible, and when the course of action is up to your brother and your campaign manager, you’re hedged pretty well. Then think about how so many people were turned away from the polls because of bad lists and ignorant poll workers… honestly, if half the people in your neighborhood weren’t allowed to vote, wouldn’t you complain?
From 1927 to 1955, people complained about Josef Stalin, but he didn’t leave office until they carried him out feet-first. But Stalin was in charge. Why couldn’t the West just get over it?
well, I’m still not over the whole Sam Tilden thing…
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well, i got a letter saying i wasn’t gong to get a refund, so i can’t even do that!
And us not getting over iters had to put up with “i’m one of the 57% (or whatever) that didn’t elect Bubba” bumper stickers for years (just one example). so what we got here is a case of pots and kettles going to war over who’s blacker…
Anyway, just wait until the roles are reversed, and lets see how badly the Republicans scream bloodly murder… I can guarantee you with the crap running for office these days it won’t take long.