Couldn’t be all those bags of dog poo, could it? Of course not.
One comment from one parent, as opposed to several from parents who use cloth. Way to assume. Again.
Of course, if every parent in the country used cloth diapers, you’d complain about the water being used to wash them.
(What would suggest calling them? They’re not exactly re-usable.)
Dog poo from this house goes in the can in a paper bag. Dog poo picked up elsewhere is in biodegradable bags. Try again.
There were several parents in this thread who said they use cloth?
Only because it would be another example of how continued high population is killing us all, but in context of cloth vs Pampers? Cloth wins every time.
Oh I dunno - landfill fillers? Shit filled time capsules? Three seconds of parent convenience, three centuries in the ground? You pick, they are all good.
BTW, if you have no babies to plop on tables, why do you care if people think it’s offensive?
Crap, I wish the ad would have played for me! Sounds like it was full of realism [/sarcasm]
Come on Curlcoat, why don’t you tell us what you really feel about babies?
So you do the dog owner equivalent of cloth diapers, essentially. Good for you. Now tell me everyone does the same.
Hey, sillyness is sillyness, regardless of whether it affects me directly. I’ve seen people put shopping bags on tables, purses on tables, their hands, their arms, their phones, all sorts of things that are much more likely to be carrying germs than a baby’s freshly dressed bottom. I’ve even seen people set a used napkin on the table! Amazing! Don’t they have any manners?
But it’s late and I’m tired, and I know this isn’t going anywhere. Sometimes I feel like playing this game, but I’m done now. Just count me as one of those who doesn’t get bent out of shape about little stuff.
I use modern cloth nappies, and while they don’t contain as much pee as a disposable, they are miles better at containing poo (or poosplosions as they are sometimes advertised). Plus they’re better for the environment, plus they save wodges of cash, plus they give that lovely cushy bum that’s fun to swat - what’s not to love?
I’ve been following this from the beginning, and initially thought it was an overreaction, particularly to a clothed baby. However, having done a couple of nappy changes since then while thinking about the topic, I realise that the naked baby bottom touches the change mat, and once dressed again, the clean clothed bottom also touches the change mat - there is the potential for contamination. So, I think it’s better to not seat a baby on the table, simply out of courtesy for others.
BUT - I think this should apply to pretty much everything - handbags for example are regularly placed on toilet floors, on bus seats etc - and may carry a similar risk of contamination.
Precisely. And here’s something that I don’t understand, and maybe curlcoat can help me out, after she sterilizes her keyboard because her next door neighbor sneezed. Suppose that a baby’s bottom is as dirty and germ-riddled as, say, MeanOldLady’s colostomy bag. How are those germs to infect poor little ole curlcoat? Her food is presumably on a plate at sit-down restaurants, and even if we’re talking McDonalds, the food is (1) on a tray or in a to-go paper bag AND (2) in a cardboard container or a paper hamburger wrapper. The only way for her food to contact the baby’s assspawn (woo, triple ess) is for her to drop it on the table and then proceed to eat it. Which, of course, raises the question of who really has the issue here :dubious:
I suppose the other way for germs to get to food is for (a) toxic baby on the table, (b) hands touching the table and (c) hands touching the food. But it seems if that’s the case, the most easily avoided link in the chain is (b)! Not to mention that your hands are already fucking filthy from opening the door to McDonalds, touching the back of the booth as you sit down (or the chair as you pull it out; neither, ISTM, are cleaned as often as the tables), holding your tray, picking the underware (hat tip to Lust4Life for the improved spelling) out of your ass, etc.
I know I must be missing something, because I read each and every one of the citations that curlcoat et al. provided demonstrating that baby asses are more lethal than anthrax (I did, really, every single word). But, because I’m missing something, it seems like someone putting a baby on a table for 10 seconds – or even 10 minutes – isn’t really that dangerous.
quixotic78, you’re totally forgetting that a baby (!) may have farted (!) in the same room (!) as these unwitting diners! EVERYTHING is contaminated!!!
*And the beach is a thing and the bees don’t sting
Like complaining from a downtown whore
I got my plasma patches and my hypodermic in hermetically sealed kid gloves
Yeah tell me
Dirty ass rock ‘n’ roll
Dirty ass rock ‘n’ roll*
Well lets do a deal then.
I’m quite happy to kiss your purse.
And in exchange you can kiss my ass.
I wont physically enjoy kissing your purse(or elbow, or forearms) but I can assure you it will be a much more pleasant experience for me then your experience of kissing my, or anyone elses backside.
Damn, I did forget about Lust4Life’s magical bacteria-bearing farts. And after s/he was so meticulous in documenting the phenomenon as well. I guess we’re all just lucky that only babies have this lethal gas, or else humanity would have died out a long time ago.
Come on, don’t be coy .
What color panties are you wearing today ?
Are they shit stained ?
Oooh Ooh,gasp, gasp !
Fart for me baby you know you love it!
The whole “I’ve mistaken quixotic78 as a female” thing has gotten to be really creepy and weird. I sure don’t get it.
That has what to do with anything? If nothing else, there are far fewer dog poop bags in landfills than there are diapers.
Yes, and your attempts to justify putting something that is meant to be shit in on a restaurant table are getting pretty silly.
That certainly hasn’t been shown here.
This is one of those silly things. Why would you assume anyone is a germophobe simply because they don’t like the idea of shit on their table?
Silverware touches the table. Perhaps you eat with your hands - I don’t.
I am not talking about McDonalds or any other fast food place here, since I do not eat in the store at those places, since they tend to be overrun with sticky children, rude teens and clueless parents.
Well, if nothing else, you have missed that it is rude and unnecessary, but that of course doesn’t penetrate the brain of a parent like you.
Hmm… language like this (emphasis added):
(You sound like an amazingly fun person to hang out with, BTW. Not at all priggish or holier-than-thou). Here’s another quote from you (note the subtle racism):
Or one final one:
Yeah, you sound totally reasonable. Not a germaphobe at all… :rolleyes:
Funny, all the sit-down restaurants I’ve been to, the silverware is on napkins, not the table itself. Occasionally, at buffets (which I’m sure you shun because they’re dirty, of course, but if you don a Hazmat suit you can verify for yourself) the silverware is in centrally located bins, at which point it’s incumbent upon you to keep it off the table.
I’ve already told you that I find it necessary – you disagree, but that means about as much to me as a butterfly fart – and as WhyNot has pointed out repeatedly, it’s not universally acknowledged as rude at all. So really… you’ve got nothing.
I really wish it were more practical for me to ship my (forthcoming) baby’s loaded, disposable diapers to California landfills. As close to curlcoat’s place as I can manage.
Nobody likes shit on their table. Nobody really likes germs either.
The problem arises when you dramatically overestimate the risk and change your behavior as a result.
Sticky children equals germs in your mind? A person who doesn’t wish to get sticky is a germophobe?
Since when is it racist to be aware that diseases/infections that are essentially unknown in first world countries tend to be an issue in third world countries? Or do you disagree that Mexico is third world?
You disagree? Hard to understand why you think that one is racist tho, and kinda funny that you are soooo sensitive about others - except when it might inconvenience you.
When you sit down, do you leave the napkin on the table top?
No, you haven’t. Necessary would be if it would be impossible to do whateveritis without sitting the kid on the table. Since thousands of parents are able to put on coats/shoes, wipe noses, dig thru purses and whatever the other excuses were without sitting their kids on the table, it is obviously not necessary to do so.
I don’t think there is anything that is considered universally rude. However, in polite company in most if not all of the US, it is considered rude to sit on a table in a restaurant (other than fast food I suppose) no matter what your age is.
Yet another example of the consideration of parents. Fortunately for me, I live no where near a landfill.
When did I do that?
No.
It’s not.
I’ve provided one nationally airing television ad showing it as within the bounds of at least casual etiquette. Of course ads aren’t accurate portrayals of real life…but outside of comedy, cultural taboos are still followed.
You’ve shown us absolutely nothing to support your opinion, either on hygiene or on manners.
I mean, Jesus Christ, woman! Open a Poll or something. It wouldn’t begin to approach scientific validity, but it would be something more than you’ve got. But you’re not actually concerned with being factually correct, are you?
As I said, I wasn’t able to see the ad, but I understood that the setting was someone’s home.
Simply because you don’t agree doesn’t mean I haven’t shown anything.
:rolleyes: You do know that factually correct and using TV ads for examples aren’t exactly the same thing, right? As for the poll, since I am comfortable with my position, I’m not out looking for supporters.
Actually, yes, I do disagree that Mexico is a third world country, as the term no longer has any meaning since the fall of the Soviet Union. You might want to look into a modern alternative, such as the Human Development Index, where Mexico is in the High Human Development camp (second highest). Other members of this category include Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, Romania, St. Lucia, Turkey, and Russia – all of which are, by this measure, less developed than Mexico. (BTW, those blue words are signify what is colloquially called a “cite.” You might try one sometime).
Yes. I lived in San Diego for four years in the mid-90s, and it doesn’t seem any more disease ridden than the other places I’ve lived in the US.
Until my food arrives, yes, at which point the napkin goes on my lap and the silverware goes in my hands or on the plate.
Well bully for those thousands of parents. I’m not them, so they count for exactly dick. There are thousands of people who can do square roots of large numbers in their heads. I’m not one of them, so a calculator is necessary for me. Similarly, I can’t wipe my daughter’s nose while holding her, so it’s necessary for me to put her down.