I wouldn’t use that stupid commercial as proof of anything - I don’t even understand what it’s talking about (what kitchen counters and wedding dresses and paper towels have to do with each other, I have no idea). And no, people don’t come breezing into the house and plunk their kid on my kitchen counters; not in any house of anyone I know.
There seems to be an air almost of desperation by those trying to justify their own insanitary practices and their low standards of hygiene as compared to most other people.
Its their kids I feel sorry for.
That’s just lame. Pathetic and ham-fisted attempts at emotional manipulation do not substitute for good argument very well. I suppose that’s all you’ve got, though.
In looking back over the thread, it seems to me that of the people who expressed an opinion about a clean clothed baby on a table, more people had no problem with it than did.
Not only that, but I’ll inject hydrochloric acid into my eyeball with a rusty needle before I give any credence to someone who posted
That sort of shit would be looked at askance on the Fark message board, for crying out loud…
Well, that’s a new one.
I’m sorry, that means next to nothing. Simply because money is being poured into Mexico to try to help it out and bring it into the 20th century doesn’t make it any less of a third world country now. Very little of the country is Acapulco you know - even Mexico City was more shambles than city the last time I was down there (which was a while ago, now that I think about it). Tijuana has made huge strides in the recent years but it is one little blip in a sea of homes made out of our cast off garage doors, which get swept away whenever the river floods.
Since I’ve posted one or two in this thread alone, I obviously know what it is.
Four years in a nice clean high rent city makes you think you have a handle on what it is like in the far more numerous low rent areas? It appears by your opinion of Mexico, based on what Wiki tells you rather than actually you know looking at it, that you didn’t even bother to leave the city while you were there - did you even venture into Imperial Beach or any of the other less than wonderful suburbs?
You eat with a knife, fork and spoon sitting on your plate?
Well hon, you were the one that was trying to claim that it was necessary to put a kid on a table in order to tie it’s shoes or whatever. And I assure you that a major of those parents who don’t find it necessary aren’t able to do high level math in their heads. If you cannot wipe your kid’s nose while she is standing on the floor, sitting in a high chair or in a booster, then maybe you aren’t qualified to be a parent at all. Shoot, if she is a really young kid, you should be able to hold her in one arm and wipe with the other hand! It’s extremely pathetic that you claim that the only way you can wipe her nose is by sitting her on a table.
Wow. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Absolutely none. Which leaves me with a tough decision – do I give more credibility to the Human Development Index, which (if you bothered to read my link at all) was developed by a number of prominent scholars, or do I take the word of someone who is painfully ignorant and who, apparently, once went to Mexico City years ago? Tough one.
Sweetie, sweetie, you have got to stop this diagnosis from a distance; you’re just really, really bad at it. I lived in both Coronado (admittedly a bubble) and IB, and I often frequented Chula Vista, National City, El Cajon, downtown proper (well, Hillcrest and El Cajon Blvd area). I have family and friends all over the place down there. And oh yeah, I’ve been to Tijuana numerous times as well. But good on ya for being so monumentally wrong!
(And, BTW, I thought Southern California was some hotbed of human disease. Now it’s a “nice clean high rent city” (sic)? Make up your mind!)
No, generally I put them in my hands and use them, and rest them on my plate when I’m not using them. ISTM that you drag them around on the tabletop, hoping to pick up germs so you can bitch about how dirty the tables are. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Not at all. I was claiming that it was necessary for me to rest my daughter on a flat surface when I wipe her nose. Like how it’s necessary for you to be absolutely incorrect about everything you post (unlike the rest of us).
I hope the English language files a police report against you for assault and battery. Yeesh.
Miss Wrong strikes again! Man, if there were a batting title for wrongness, you’d make Ted Williams look like Mendoza. My daughter can’t stand on her own yet, and – believe it or not – she cannot teleport to a highchair. There are actually moments where, say, she’s in the restaurant but not yet (or no longer) in the highchair. Hence, ass on table.
It’s a two-handed operation. But truly, I appreciate your diagnosis from a distance. Spot on as always!
Thats just lame.
Pathetic and hamfisted attempts at emotional manipulation do not substitute for a good argument.
Very well, I suppose thats all you’ve got though.
Because a handful of guilty people desperately try over hard to rationalise their insanitary and unhygenic practices on a thread it doesn’t amount to a vox pop of the general population.
Nor does asking people who you know IRL that are equally as unhygienic as yourselves amount to any sort of reliable statistic.
You need to raise your game when it comes to hygiene and young children.
Live with it.
Practice what you preach sweetie.
Or is it that time of the month again ?
Wow! 11 pages! Last time I read this thread it was only 3 pages long! 
I guess many parents do not realize that the sight of baby diapers make other people lose their appetite. And maybe some parents do not consider soiled diapers disgusting. I have a cousin who makes everybody wash their hands before they’re allowed to touch her baby but I noticed during one visit that they don’t mind the day-old soiled diaper on top of the table in the baby’s room.
Personally, the sight of baby diapers touching the table at a restaurant will make me wonder if the table I’m using was also “touched” and that would make me lose my appetite.
No, it is obviously you that have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Mexico. You don’t even seem to be able to understand the written word, since no where did I indicate that I had only been to Mexico City once. Anyway, for you to wave your hand and dismiss all of the problems those people are suffering with just shows how little you know.
Plus, this is just a red herring to distract us from what a poor parent you are.
You are holding your knife, fork and spoon in your hands all at the same time, or are you trying to eat while dodging silverware? Or are you just full of shit? Since I don’t believe I’ve ever seen anyone eating the way you claim, I’m thinking you are full of shit.
You really are helpless. Pathetic.
Aww, that’s it? Come on, I expected some more long-distance diagnosis from you. Like how I obviously never graduated high school, or how I was devastated when my best friend ran over my dog. You’ve so skillfully entertained us all by pulling (presumably germ-riddled) stuff out of your ass. Don’t stop now!
So where exactly do you put your silverware while you’re eating? On the table? In your lap? Disgusting habit. And since most restaurants don’t even provide a spoon unless you order soup, that comment is just more sillyness.
You’ve never seen anyone rest their knife on the plate while they eat? Honestly? All your friends just strew their used flatware on the table while they have dinner? “Dodging silverware”? Oh, please.
Forget it curlcoat, it’s Poopytown.
Just carry these Clorox Disinfecting Wipes To Go Pack - Fresh Scent.
Obviously not since there was more to my post that you have chosen to ignore - wonder why?
OTOH, yeah that is pretty much it in a nutshell. You’ve made claims about things you obviously have no clue about, to the point that I begin to wonder how old you actually are. And now you have degenerated into gratuitous attempts at insults. Since children bore me…
Perhaps the restaurants you go to don’t provide a spoon up front, but many of the ones we go to do. And yes, until I use it, my silverware sits on the table, which is generally the habit here - only germophobes are concerned if their silverware touches the tabletop. But I suppose as entitled parents get even more common, and more diapers are sat (and changed!) on restaurant tables, we will have to get in the habit of, I suppose, asking for an extra napkin to set our silverware on since we will no longer be able to trust that the table top doesn’t have e coli, hepatitis or whatever on it. All because of parents like quixotic78, who claims to be too retarded to wipe a nose with one hand, or to be capable of doing it before removing the baby from the high chair.
It’s a good thing disability pays well enough for curlcoat to do so much fine dining and avoid the dirty children and Mexicans. She’s a shining example that all parents should aspire to.
Aww, come on, I’m sure you know exactly how old I am. You’ve known so much about me. Don’t be coy; you know I’m only 19. Have the stones to come out and declare it as fact!
P.S. Just out of a morbid sense of curiosity, what are some of the things I obviously have no clue about? Quotes, woman! Share!
Okay, you can stop this now. Nobody here has defended changing babies on a table. In fact, several people, including me, have agreed that it’s a very bad idea. So putting that in there was just trying to boost your argument by throwing in something that had been dropped long past.
So you only eat in fine-dining places. Don’t they ever change the table cloths? And what are you doing in this discussion, since it’s likely you VERY rarely even see a baby where you eat out?
And I’ll say it again. That well-covered baby’s bottom is no more germy than the hands, elbows, purses, cell phones, or other body parts and junk that most adults, including you, put on tables all the time. Probably not even any more germy than the hands of the waiter who set your fine-dining table. I have a feeling that even the best waiters don’t wash their hands every couple of minutes.
This was longer until I took out the snark. I’m trying to be civilized here.
Zero for two there - disability pays very little, and we go to a hole in the wall Mexican place to eat about once a month. We also live in a neighborhood that is about half Mexican, so I’m not sure why you think that is an issue.
As for “fine dining”, whether or not I ever do that would depend on your definition.
Why would I know how old you are? Until recently I thought you were female.
I have already told you.
Uh huh. Simply because “several people” have agreed that changing diapers on a table is “a very bad idea” (gee, are you sure? :dubious:) doesn’t mean that it isn’t going on or that there aren’t folks reading the thread who do just that. Since my point was that the rest of us are going to have to start assuming contamination due to the practices of some parents, throwing that in as you say only makes sense.
Why does getting a spoon equal a fine-dining place? Unless you consider anything other than fast food to be fine dining?
Another one that makes no sense - are you not aware that far too many parents think that pwecious should be welcomed anywhere? And since I haven’t been to a fine dining place as I define it in I can’t remember how long, I see babies or at least toddlers at almost every place I eat.
It doesn’t matter how many times you say it, the fact remains that not all, and maybe not even most in some areas, babies are “well covered”. Neither are all diapers completely capable of containing all messes. My hands and forearms, which are the only things I tend to put on tables, do not have e coli, hepatitis or any of the other fecal specific germs on them. So whether there are more, say, cold germs on my hands overall than there are e coli germs on a babies butt overall is kind of immaterial.
Must have been quite a post beforehand then.
You better start asking for it based on the habits of all the adults that might have previously sat at your table too - all those that sneezed onto the table without using their elbow crook or a hankie, or returned to the table from the bathroom without washing their hands. Not all the germs are carried by babies, so don’t start blaming them for all the ills of the world.
I’d stay away from the salad too:
Two hundred and forty samples of raw fresh vegetables namely celery, lettuce,
tomato, radish, pepper, cabbage and mint were collected from a local market. The
samples were examined for the presence of L. monocytogenes and fecal coliform
using ELISA test method. L. monocytogenes was found in 11% of fresh vegetable
samples and 12% of samples had fecal coliform.
Oh, and money while you’re at it.
Physical money is a common source of fecal contamination.
Baby on a table! Oh, noes! : )