Getting liberals on board with the wall

It’s so cute how people pretend to give a damn about low wage workers when it suits their agenda.

Still can’t tell if serious.

Why? Hmm, let me see,
[ul][li] it would give the impression that the US is full of morons (because sometimes honesty is not the best policy[*] it is a waste of money that benefits no one[/li][li] it is a problem for marginal desert ecosystems[/li][li] it blocks off the rio from the US side[/li][li] it is a total aesthetic nightmare, no matter how nice the might make it look[/li][li] we should address the underlying problems it is supposed to solve anyway, because it will solve none of them[/li][/ul]
… and some other stuff I cannot think of just now.

Let’s just give all immigrants an AR-15 to please Conservatives

I think if you want liberals to get behind the wall, you need to spend a generation or two actively de-educating them until they are as ignorant and racist as conservative America. Then they’ll easily buy into quick fix solutions for complex problems and you can sell them catheters on Fox News. Win-win.

Blow out the lamp beside the golden door,
we don’t need cheap foreign labor anymore.
Without our unions and the E.R.A.,
we will all have twice the jobs at half the pay.

-Si Kahn, “Government on Horseback”

Trump himself floated the idea of solar panels to help pay for the wall. This is truly the realm of the bizarre.

“Solar energy is a big liberal boondoggle! Also, solar panels on the wall will generate so much power we can sell that it’ll generate a profit that can offset a $200b (plus cost of panels) wall…”

This fits in to the “make the Mexicans pay for it” line of the fantasy, as well. Generate electricity, sell the electricity across the border, the money the Mexicans pay for the power pays for the wall. “The Mexicans paid for the wall.” Q.E.D. :dubious:

I shouldn’t ask, but is selling catheters on Fox News a thing?

Apparently this was all his idea in the first place:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/solar-border-wall-idea-trump/story?id=48214907&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_hero_headlines_headlines_hed

If the wall is going to run into so much opposition, be so expensive, impede animal migrations, be a blight on the landscape, etc., then maybe we can build cheaper versions of the wall on top of our already built homes across the USA. Of course, by walls, i mean home-sized solar arrays that are eligible for tax breaks and that would reduce the need to build more daytime/peak load power plants. Maybe we could have Citibanamex handle financing too, so we could build these walls and have Mexico pay for it.

Speaking for all Liberals:

We’ll get on board with the Wall when Trump

-Fires Scott Pruitt as the head of the EPA and replaces him with an environmental scientist who specializes in climate change;
-Fires Betsy DeVos as Education Secretary and replaces her with a Social Scientist whose focus is Education;
-Vetoes any bill which cuts Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PBS, NEA, NEH, our Public Education System, the Food Stamp program, Head Start and all other New Deal/Great Society programs
-Expands the regulatory powers of the EPA, FDA and Consumer Protection Agency
-Brings Anti-Trust suits against Big Banks and large conglomerates
-Rejoins the Paris Climate Accord
-Cuts military and defense spending by at least 40% across the board
-Raises the top marginal tax rate to 71% and closes all loopholes.
-Expands the budget for Social Security, the EPA, and Federal Education as well as our Public Transportation system(s).
-Begins funding for Sea Walls along every coastal area of the country

He does all of those, I’ll even help build the wall.

Heh, you may just have described me as well. But I just can’t comprehend why anyone of any political flavor would want a “wall,” physically or otherwise. Growing up where I did, in the rust belt, it was (and still is, pretty much) the uniony blue-collar Democrats who were always in favor of weird labor agreements and tariffs. But those really never work for long. Recently most of that same demographic has turned over from blue-collar Demo to conservative and I think it’s confusing everyone. :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously, though, what have we to fear from Mexico? What would happen if we allowed a full, open-border policy? I think we’d have to reduce or give up the concept of a minimum wage, and that can scare people on both sides. What I’m most against, politically, is protectivism. Even if it harms “us” in the short run. There’s a very simple economic concept (comparative advantage, I believe) in which countries should simply try to focus on what they are good at, forget protectionist tariffs, and let the chips fall where they may. If we all do that, we all we be better off. When we try to subvert that, we ultimately get Malthusian outcomes like the Irish famine. That’s not progress, people.