Getting old: It's not just for old people any more

And once again, Life slaps me upside the head and says, “Did that hurt, old-timer?”

Today I was talking with a friend about music. She was compiling a list of songs to put on her iPod, and she mentioned Jungle Love.

Now, I like Jungle Love. Definitely better than Space Cowboy, in my opinion. I was about to compliment her on her taste in music, when she said, “Pretty much anything by Morris Day and the Time is good, though.”

I stopped her and said, in a very patronizing voice, “Morris Day didn’t do Jungle Love. Steve Miller did that.”

And she looked confused and said, “No, Morris Day did it.”

And we went back and forth until I finally looked up the song on the Internet, and we were both right – Steve Miller recorded a song called *Jungle Love * in the 70s, and Morris Day recorded one in the 80s.

The thing is, I was a teenager in the 80s. I ought to remember the Morris Day version (and I did, too, once she sang a little of it, but I pretended not to remember anyway, so she started doing the bird dance that Morris Day made famous, which tickled me no end), but what automatically pops into my head when I hear the title *Jungle Love * is the Steve Miller version. My friend, of course, is 30, so her default memory for that title is Morris Day’s song.

And so my friend said, “Man, I keep forgetting how old you are.”

I’m FORTY-ONE, dammit. I’m not old. At least, I’m not supposed to be old.

Of course, right now a lot of senior citizens are saying “You think THAT’S bad? I think of GLENN Miller when I hear the phrase ‘Jungle Love’! STEVE Miller is just a whippersnapper!” And that would be a valid point, if Glenn Miller had ever recorded a song called Jungle Love, but since he didn’t, you’re just senile and you should shut up now and get back to your busy schedule of drooling and ordering stuff off of infomercials.

How does this happen, anyway? How’d I get old? I mean, in my head, I feel like I ought to be around 25 … maybe 28, tops. How did I get to be in my 40s?

I remember a Fourth of July evening in the mid-70s, when Slade Sanders and I were throwing firecrackers at an ant mound near my driveway. I had just had a birthday, and so we were talking (in between raining down Nuclear Armageddon on the ants) about age and such. And I remember saying, “You know, when the year 2000 hits, we’ll be 34 years old. Man, that’s OLD.” Slade agreed; he wasn’t sure we’d even be able to live that long. (Given our propensity to play with fireworks during our childhood, though, Slade was probably right to wonder about that.) At that time, 34 was, like, Methuselah-old. Older than our parents, even. If you can imagine something living that long.

So apparently I got old when I wasn’t looking. And it’s not just chronologically, either – I act a lot older than I should sometimes.

Take hairstyles. My son and stepson both like their hair to be long and shaggy. I can remember, as a teenager, wanting to grow my hair long like the cool kids did in school, and how my parents wouldn’t let me do it. Oh, how I argued about that one, to no avail. Now, 25 years later, my own kids want their hair long, and I’m on the other side of that debate. “Son, Pat Benatar didn’t have hair that long at the height of her popularity, and she is a girl” is a common phrase in my house, which leads to the boy(s) saying “Who’s Pat Benatar?” followed by me laying down on the couch for a while to rest, because that makes me feel old all over again.

And clothes. Sweet mother of Ralph Lauren, what are the kids WEARING these days? Shorts bagging down below their ankles, waistbands hitting right above their knees … this is what homeless people wore when I was a teenager. Young people, listen closely – your clothing styles do not look cool to someone over the age of 21. You look like you’re about to walk up to us and ask for some spare change, so you can catch a bus to Chicago to get a job (which is Homeless Person code for “I’m going to buy a bottle of ripple.”) (Do they even make ripple any more? Or is that another old-person memory I have that’s no longer relevant in today’s society?)

It’s only a matter of time before I’m sitting all day in a recliner, drooling on myself and ordering stuff off of infomercials and talking about how great Glenn Miller was.

Well, I’m going to fight it. Maybe I have to get old age-wise, but I don’t have to get old attitude-wise. I think I’m going to go look for some ant beds in the yard tonight. I’m pretty sure we still have some firecrackers left over from the last New Year’s celebration.

Jungle love, it’s driving me mad, it’s making me cray-zeee …

I’m not the only one who’s never heard of either song before today, right?

Sorry to hear about your elderly state. Pretty funny rant.

Music, ever the great generational divide.

We were thinking of going to a party hosted by LACMA, some time ago, until we read that there were going to be DJs, – which presumably indicated that there would be “house” or “hip hop” or “rap” or “dance music” played at deafening volumes.

Ermmm…no, we decided.

Which, of course, is exactly why they wear them. :smiley:
-silenus, who is 52 and still plays with fireworks.

Today’s just not your day friend. They haven’t made Ripple in years.

I just turned 40 about a week ago and the first thing I thought of when I saw ‘Jungle Love’ in your post was The Time’s version.

Now I’d like to say that that makes me vastly more hip than you. But since that song is now quite literally a quarter century old ( it was released in 1983 ), I fear I can’t quite bring myself to crow about it :p.

So you wanna join our fogey club, whippersnapper?

Um, she’s 30? So she did not see* Purple Rain* in the theatres, then. Did she have it on VHS growing up?

I googled both versions. I recognize the Steve Miller one from listening to way too much “classic rock” radio. I find the Morris Day to be forgettable.

I’m 21, and Steve Miller’s “Jungle Love” is the only one I know. Does that make me prematurely old?

I’m 36, and immediately went Steve Miller. I have both versions on my iPod, but had to listen to The Time version to bring it to mind.

Oh, man, they don’t make Ripple any more? Can you at least get Mad Dog? Man, what’s a drunk supposed to buy for a buck a bottle if they don’t make Ripple?

I was in my 20s in the 80s and I’ve never heard of Morris Day. I went to the Miller version immediately (off of Book of Dreams–good album).
I’m 4 years older than you are. I don’t mind the longer hair on my sons. I don’t mind that my daughter wears a thong (she doesn’t let it show because she isn’t trash)–youth is when you are supposed to do stupid things and wear uncomfortable underwear (yes, it is–I’ve heard all the testimonials and thongs are still dental floss for your ass).
I trip over other things, like all this instant communication and no one (still) understands one another etc. And all the toys–time was when you made your own fun, not have it prepackaged and marketed to you (the snow man kits are my favorite right now–as if any kid NEEDS an effing snowman kit! It comes with a hat, “eyes”, “nose”, “buttons” etc–no wonder mental illness is on the rise…or is it stupidity? I forget.)

Mad Dog appears to be around, still (assuming this is what you’re referring to; all I ever knew about was Ripple and Boone’s Farm). Looks like that website (www.bumwine.com) has the answer to what you can buy for cheap.

I’m afraid I missed both versions of Jungle Love, mostly because I’ve never been very good at keeping up with current music.

We had a conversation about the olden days at my nephew’s basketball game over the weekend. One of our friends who has a kid on the same team started it. All about how we used to automatically go outdoors when the weather was nice when we were little and now kids have to be kicked out because they’d rather be in front of various and sundry screens. Brother and I are 49 and 50; other kid’s dad is mid-30s or so. But we’re all old where outdoor play is concerned.

GT

I’m over 40, and I thought of Morris Day’s version. Makes me want to buy a CD of the soundtrack all over again.

I’m tickled to see so many dopers my own age in one thread.

I’ve never heard of either version. I’m sure I’ve heard the song, but I wouldn’t be able to attribute it to either performer.

Hah! I have both** songs. So there. :wink: I got the “olds” really young: I was working in a music store in the late 80s (I was just on the other side of 26) when a couple of teeny-boppers came in asking for the album by [cue uptalk] “that new group?, y’know?, The Beatles?”

Groan.

“Jethro Tull? Who’s he?”

I think I’ll curl up with a bottle of Night Train Express and drown my old age.

Vlad/Igor

FTR, I’ll be 42 (!) this summer. Although I was tricked by friends into watching Purple Rain, I don’t remember any version of Jungle Love by Morris Day. Only the Steve Miller version.

Throughout my life, I’ve always been the youngest person in the group - youngest child of a large family, older friends, married a man 16 years older, etc. In fact, that is the secret to being young - always be the youngest person in the group. That worked just fine for a number of years but then I got a new, early 20s riding instructor. We became good friends and, over happy hour, I would regale her with tales of things done. She nailed me one day with “you have done so many things. I want to be just like you when I get old.” Stake through the heart…

To make matters worse, the parents of the high school girls that help out in my barn are younger than me. I’ve never had children but I realized recently that I could be a GRANDPARENT! :eek:

41 is not old. 41 is just not young.

I thought Steve Miller of course and even worse, I thought Morris Day was the group from Animal House.

Then I remembered that Morris Day was in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back and was associated with Prince.

Jim

I’m 39, and I thought you were talking about Morris Day’s version. But then I was really into Prince and his gang- Morris Day, Appollonia, Vanity, etc. I even had black lace fingerless gloves. I still am a huge Prince fan, and I, in fact, saw Morris Day on New Year’s Eve 2002 or 3 here at a casino, singing “Oh we oh we oh”… it was cool. It’s hard to believe that song is 25 years old. Pretty crazy, actually.

I’m 26, and music is already my enemy. I’ll be thinking of something I still consider “current music” (i.e. not an “oldie” or something you’d play at a theme night or whatever) and I’ll realize it’s from 1992. This was music I was listening to when I came out (in 1998)! It’s already sixteen years old! OMG. Okay, got to go break my hip now.