Moderating:
Joking about, or celebrating, prison rape has no place in MPSIMS. I don’t think we even allow it in the pit.
I’ve read commentary that this is no big deal; she’s just the designated fall guy…er, person, and nothing further will happen to anyone else in power responsible for anything related to this, so this was just a pointless circus designed to placate the public and fool them into thinking the system functions so everyone can just forget.
Without me commenting on my personal opinion of this POV, it did raise a question for me: what kind of other investigations or prosecutions are underway? Are they at all likely to actually do something?
Apologies. No celebration was intended. Just a poor attempt at reusing a line from the movie Office Space. I accept the moderation and will be more careful.
Prince Andrew is now in the hot seat and being called on his bullshit… but no sweat… 
Here’s something Mundane and Pointless. The name of her father Robert Maxwell’s boat - the one he walked/fell/jumped off was:
Lady Ghislaine
Jaysus, they were quite the family.
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LOL … didn’t quite get what this was about until I saw this article:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/31/us/virginia-giuffre-prince-andrew-court-filing-intl/index.html
Oh, and as for his claim that “he’s never met this lady” [Virginia Guiffre] …
Young girl that he has his arm around: Virginia Guiffre (underage at the time)
Woman on the right: Ghislaine Maxwell, doing what she does best.
Prince’s response to the picture: Photoshop! Never happened!
She was already on suicide watch before the trial.
Just think what the theories will be if she successfully suicides like Epstein.
Can he be forced to pay out a civil suit decision made by a US court? I imagine there is no way a criminal charge would work, no way does he get extradited to anywhere.
I’m still astounded that Maxwell stayed in the US when she was under investigation. With her resources she could have moved all kinds of places that wouldn’t extradite her. It’s like she thought she couldn’t be touched.
Not exactly true. He claims he does not recall ever meeting her.
Not trying to defend the Prince. I think he’s guilty as sin. Just setting the record straight.
Could be he met/had sex with so many 17 year old blondes while visiting Epstein that he can’t remember individuals. Not sure that’s a really good defensive strategy to use.
But certain “friends” of his did actually publicly claim that the picture was a fake, and he did indeed claim that the sexual assault alleged by Guiffre “never happened”.
It’ll be interesting to see what his defense will be!
As someone recently said (reported on CNN, I think), “his defense so far has been evasions and technicalities” (like questioning the jurisdiction of the Manhattan court).
Although I am dubious about Andrews claims, it is now so easy to photoshop pictures and fake videos, they are nearly worthless as evidence.
Not to mention, no doubt a lot of people, women, girls, etc all all ages have wanted to get a selfie with the prince, he can’t be expected to remember all of them.
Still, I am dubious about his innocence.
Mind you the Q folks are saying pretty much every leading Dem had parties with Epstein and underage girls. Only Dems of course.
Here’s the real deal. The cringe is throughout but the pizza and sweat stuff begins at about 19 mins in but the lying continues well past that:
He may be telling the truth. Who knows?
Mind you, all he is saying “it wasn’t that date” and “I don’t remember her”. Celebrities meet a LOT of people they don’t remember. Her even said he is not sure that he ever met her.
I had a lovely at least half hour long chat with the very intelligent and beautiful Raquel Welch. I remember it clearly. I doubt if she remembers me.
I have met several other celebrities , but I am sure they do not remember meeting me. Why would they? I am a non-entity.
Do I believe him? eh. But I am not ready to declare him a liar either.
Wonder if they remember that the takedown of Epstein happened during year 3 of DJT’s administration under Bill Barr’s Justice Department, who were the ones to arrrest him and charge him and had him in their custody when whatever happened happened.
Pshaw. You think Hilary stopped using her e-mail server after she lost the election?
That server, located in the basement of the pizza joint, is the hub of her communications network, including with the lizard people who can shape-shift to look like prison guards to do their nefarious deeds. Bill Barr was taken in by it all; just one more stooge hoodwinked by the Clintons!
The real problem with Hunter Biden’s lapotop is that Hilary’s people accidentally used it for back-ups for the key Hilary e-mails to the lizard people, so the Dems are trying to build a diversionary cover story that it was really Hunter Biden with the laptop in Ukraine, not Ms Clinton in the pizza parlour with her e-mail server.
And Joe can protect Hunter and his laptop more easily than he can protect Hilary, so things look like the true story will never break.
Connect the dots!
What other famous people have been associated with this case besides the Prince?
It’s a long list. Epstein loved celebrity, chauffeuring celebrities around in his infamous plane and inviting people to parties.
Some like lawyer Alan Dershowitz are embroiled in tangential legal issues ( suits and counter-suits of defamation with Giuffre). Others have had some tarring, but not rising to actionable accusations like Bill Clinton (Giuffre claims she saw him walking around with a pretty girl of indetermnate age on each arm at one of these parties) or Naomi Campbell (Giuffre claims she was Maxwell’s BFF and couldn’t have been unaware of the goings on). Others may have just been circumstantially associated with him because they accepted plane rides or whatever. But search the internet and it will spill quite a volume of names.
Donald Trump was a good buddy of Epstein for about 20 years. After Ghislaine Maxwell’s arrest Trump said that he ‘wished her well’.
No specific accusations against him, though.