And, for mom…
Here’s your one chance, Fancy. Don’t let me down.
now, mind you, i don’t like religious schools or religion for that matter and i really don’t care about this entire story much, either. i am not defending the school or the stripper.
this might be what the administration of the school may be afraid of:
little kid 1: “So, what does your mommy and daddy do?”
our hero: “I don’t have a daddy and mommy dances with no clothes on for Japanese businessmen out by the airport.”
little kid 1: “titter-titter-titter! Why does your mommy dance nakid?”
our hero: “I dunno.”
little kids 2-15: singing “Your mommy dances nakid! Your mommy dances nakid!”
clearly this childs attendance creates a situation that flys in the face of the environment these church-heads are trying to maintain. if this woman is so interested in the welfare of her daughter, she could choose either another school or profession. why show up at a dog show carrying a cat?
I scream, you scream, we all denounce Jesus for Ice Cream!
That’s asinine. There is no justification for expelling a child because of her mother’s occupapation. If anything, it would be a reason to show compassion and empathy. As I’ve said before,
the Pharisees have replaced the Christians. These people may call themselves Christians, but they obviously don’t know Jesus.
Ridiculous. The mom used to teach Sunday School there.
Cite.
what is asinine is your expectation that this school follow the high road and actually practice what they preach (tolerance and forgiving and all that rot). i assume this institution is there to train god’s little soldiers the rightous way of life, and “showing compassion and empathy” would be a sign of weakness and de-facto approval of this kid’s mother’s life-style and occupation choice. it’s their party and they can cry if they want to! I fail to see why anyone is in an uproar over this or why anyone can’t figure out why the school is kicking the kid out. they believe her (mommy) to be “immoral” or something and claim the values she holds don’t fit with their school. that should be ther call to make, right or wrong.
if PETA ran a school, do you think they would take the butcher’s kid?
Sorry- I had chili for lunch.
Just remember this the next time someone tells you how private schools are superior to public ones, and why school vouchers are the one-stop magic solution for all of society’s education ills. :rolleyes:
(And Johnny L.A., you can tell Orange County is all f***ed up because they’re actually willing to have a Richard Nixon Library here. 
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http://usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/05/16/stripper-daughter-expelled.htm
I’m on the fence for this one. On the one hand, the mother is doing nothing illegal. Stripping is good money, and the hours allow her to spend more time with her daughter, and the money allows her to easily provide for her child.
On the other hand, this is a PRIVATE school. They have a right to decide who their students will be. While I think it’s harsh, and they could have at least waited until the end of the school year to expel the little girl, I don’t think Mom has much of a lawsuit. Hopefully Mom will get her into another private school that’s not quite so inflexible.
On a related note, a friend of mine had a fiance fighting for custody of her child. The ex tried to say she wasn’t a good mom because she worked as a stripper. The judge said as long as she wasn’t doing anything illegal there was no issue with how she earned her money. This was in South Carolina, a bit closer to the Bible Belt than California.
This is one fundie school. I think on the whole private schools are better than public schools.
Didn’t this happen in Sacramento?
Thew SF Chronicle article didn’t say where the school was, but the local news here in So. Cal put it in Alhambra, a community a little southeast of Pasadena. Wherever it is, it’s directors are a bunch of holier-than-thou jerks.
If the g-string don’t fit, you must acquit!
Hey, don’t blame us for that. The dude was born here. We had no choice. :o
Frankly, as long as the mom isn’t shaking her cakes in the school cafeteria, it’s none of their business what she does for a living. Just take the money and shut your wafer-holes. And a contract that makes the parent “promote good moral values” is not going to pass the judicial smell test.
Hire yourself a lawyer, honey. If you make anything near the amount of money like I think you (which is why she can afford to send her kid to private school) you can afford a good shyster. Take those Harper Valley hypocrites for every dime you can get.
Ok , bear with me here.
I do think that under some ways of looking at things, the school’s actions could make sense.
There is a theory of education that states that you shouldn’t look at education as the relationship of the child with the school: rather, the school should try to create a community of parents, students and educators who work together to raise children. This is a popular paradigm with both the right and the left: we like the whole “it takes a village” idea. If you are going to take that view, then it makes sense that the community would police itself according to its own values: they aren’t throwing the kid out because of the mother: they are throwing the family unit as a whole out of the community.
I think what makes this case more diffucult is that stripping is not something most of us see as being particularly wrong. But what if the mother was a telephone psychic, or one of those people that offer second morgages on cars, or owned a sweatshop in Brazil? In those cases, would we be outraged that the school community said “We don’t want to associate with someone whose money comes from exploiting Brazillian orphans”? If you see schools as nexii for communities, then you have to do things like this. If you see schools as a service industry that provide education to students, then this is crazy.
I think that all those condeming the school are way off base.
From http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-516stripper.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
I am an atheist and like going to strip clubs from time to time. But the school and the Mother signed a contract and the mother broke the contract. The school said that if the Mom stopped the conduct then they would take the child back.
Mom knew the rules and broke them. She was offered a chance to repair the situation and refused. The problem was created by her and she should be held responsible for her actions. There are other jobs, and schools, out there.
While I don’t agree with the schools stance, forcing a private school to change it’s philosophy is just plain wrong.
I’ll stop now as I feel a really large Rant forming in my brain about personal responsibility and some other topics.
Slee
She signed a contract and then broke the rules of the contract. It may not be fair, but them’s the rules, Mama.
Mom doesn’t have a winning case. It’s a private school and they can decide on their own acceptable standards of behavior. I can’t help but think some of the uproar is because it’s a (fundamentalist) Christian school and nude dancing.Would anyone really have a problem if it were an Orthodox Jewish school that expected its students and their families to keep kosher, and expelled or refused to re-register a student who didn’t or an Amish school that expelled students whose families started using electricity?
I really don’t know what’s up with the mother. She sends her child to a school and agrees to abide by their standards of behavior. Those standards evidently conflict with hers. I find it difficult to believe it came as a surprise to her that they were not going to approve of her job. Why in the world would she want to send her child to school with the children of families who will not approve of the mother ? That would be like me wanting to send my bi-racial children to a school affiliated with a church that believes interracial marriage is a sin.
What I want to know is who found out the mother worked as a stripper? Which teacher or administrator or fellow parent saw her performance? Hmmmmm???
And I agree with those who said that a private school can do what they pretty well please in regards to enrollment. I don’t think the woman has a lawsuit.
However, had the people running the school any Christian charity, they might have sat down with the mother to find out why she felt she needed to make money as a stripper. They might have made it feasible for her to find another more “respectable” profession by giving her a helping hand.
If you read the article I linked to, which someone else provided, you would have found out that another parent at the school heard a rumor that the Mom was a stripper and found a web site that had pics of the Mom. Further more, had you read the article you would have read this
From your post it is pretty obvious that you haven’t read anything about this case. First you insinuate that the private school people are going to strip clubs. Then you assume that the same group of people should provide a job for this woman. Should Jewish groups provide jobs for Hamas(SP?) members?
My last statement is way overboard. I said it to make a point. While I do not agree with this churches position, forcing the churches to betray their values is not acceptible.
I find it somewhat amazing that on this board Christians who try to force their beliefs on agnostics is considered rude yet forcing private religious institutions to accept agnostic or atheists is considered fair play.
Ack…The need to Rant is coming on strong…must stop…now…Spock…Don’t …let …me …Rant.
Slee
And if you had read my post, rather than simply reacted to the first paragraph, you would have seen that I said I felt the private school had the right to exclude anyone they wanted to.
I did not say they should offer her a job. I said they could have perhaps been a bit more charitable in their dealings with the mother.
My comment regarding how they found out was based on the “rumor” that was mentioned in the article. Seems to me you have taken what was basically a light-hearted jab at the “morality” of the members of the school and given it all kinds of meaning I did not intend. Jeesh, lighten up.