Giuliani has cancer (not a gag)!

Yeah, and he made the trains run on time too. Personally, I find Rudy’s brand of politics a little too fascist for my taste (and I’m not just using the word rhetorically). As for Al D’Amato, well I guess “colorfulness” is one way to put it. I give him credit for setting a standard of sleaze that future politicians will be able to aspire to.

NickyLarson:

Hee hee hee…I’ll have to send you one of my favorite tee shirts:

I don’t care
if he’s dead,
I still want to
IMPEACH NIXON.

Gee, that description could apply to Hitler, Mousillini, Stalin, or any other dictator. He chose to ignore the rights of minorities. He chose to allow the homeless population to be boxed up and shipped across town like garbage without a dump. I don’t think anyone deserves cancer (maybe a nice big cronic boil…) but I my pillow will not be wet with tears.


“I go on guilt trips a couple of time a year. Mom books them for me.” A custom made Wally .sig!

My iguana's sick.
He's all floppy. Could he have
Reptile dysfunction?
                  -Chef Troy, Haiku Master

Criminalizing the homeless.

Tacitly encouraging the New York City Police to consider themselve above any law written by man or God.

Defunding almost all grassroots community organizations despite economic prosperity.

Vindictiveness to the point of the ridiculous. e.g. Trying to evict from a city owned building a thriving senior citizen’s center and a full to capacity day-care center in order to put in a homeless shelter in Caroll Gardens because that district’s state senator voted against his bill to fund a program that would ship the homeless out of NY.

I could go on. Maybe I will later.

*Ukulele Ike: This reminds me of when Tricky Dick died, several years back…I was at a cocktail party, and the subject came up.
A literary agent – a very distinguished, silver-haired, impeccably tweeded, Brit-accent-and-all literary agent – said “Too bad he died so soon…I wanted the son-of-a-bitch to go BLIND first.”

Even in that roomful of professional snotty-East-Coast-intellectual-media-Nixon-hater types, there was a moment of embarrassed silence.*

When I heard RMN died, I was at a bar. I joked, “I’ll guess we won’t have him to kick around anymore,” paraphrasing RMN’s own statement decades before. My GF nudged me, then whispered that a friend of ours standing nearby (but fortunately out of earshot) was quite upset at the news. I honestly didn’t think anyone held him in regard anymore. shrug

You must unlearn what you have learned. – Yoda

Give me a break. I’ve heard this “criminalizing the homeless” line for years, now, and it hasn’t been true once. No one who’s homeless that wasn’t a criminal for some other reason was a criminal under Giuliani.

Ignore the rights of minorities? Examples, please. The minority communities in New York have their interests bound up with the Democratic Party. Of course they don’t like Giuliani.

Defending the police? Only when he thought they were right, not as a knee-jerk reaction. He didn’t defend them in the Louima case, for one example.

Vindictiveness to the point of the ridiculous? Gee, like he’s the first politician in the world to go tit-for-tat. I certainly don’t admire it, but it’s hardly unusual, and certainly previous mayors have done it…while mayoring much less effectively.

Chaim Mattis Keller

Whatever one thinks of Guiliani (and I happen to like him), no sane person could be happy about the news that he has prostate cancer: it means that we’ll be subjected to long segments on the television news and long articles in newspapers and magazines about prostate cancer – with vivid pictures in excruciating, appetite-killing detail – just as we are about to sit down to a meal.

Anyone remember Ronald Reagan’s polyp? We were “treated” on the evening news to pictures of the inside of Ronnie’s colon! That’s more than I ever wanted to know about my President. “Inside the Presidency” indeed! :slight_smile:

I just found it this week one of those great ironies of life that make it all seem worthwhile.

Last year, when Giuliani was busy protesting the Brooklyn art exhibit, I somehow came across this column (I forget who e-mailed it to me.)

Now, it turns out that Donna Hanover, Rudolph Giuliani’s wife, is going to perform in an off-Broadway version of “The Vagina Monologues”! I hope Mr. Giuliani will be out picketing the theatre.

whoa! How did I manage that? Let me try again. (Moderator! Please get rid of the previous post!)

I just found it this week one of those great ironies of life that make it all seem worthwhile.
Last year, when Giuliani was busy protesting the Brooklyn art exhibit, I somehow came across this column (I forget who e-mailed it to me.)

http://www.mediaresearch.org/columns/ent/col19990928.html

Now, it turns out that Donna Hanover, Rudolph Giuliani’s wife, is going to perform in an off-Broadway version of “The Vagina Monologues”! I hope Mr. Giuliani will be out picketing the theatre.

No, he’ll be too busy tearing himself a new asshole.

I’m sorry. I’ll stop now.

Sorry, I don’t see the relevance.

a) I don’t see anything in your quote that indicates that Rudy Giuliani had anything bad to say about the “Vagina Monlogues.”

b) Is the “Vagina Monlogues” taxpayer-supported? There is a difference between saying that offensive art shouldn’t be supported by the public dollar and between saying it shouldn’t exist.

Chaim Mattis Keller

I’m no fan of Der Mayor, but let’s be fair. What Giuliani was (improperly and irrationally, for a public official) objecting to in the Brooklyn case was the display of what he found to be offensive in a place that takes public funds. It is not hypocritical for him to fail to object to a privately funded display that he might find offensive, as with the Whitney “Giuliani=Nazi” show earlier this year.

Oh, and "The Vagina Monologues isn’t offensive, either. It’s actually pretty good, in a hit-you-over-the-head-with-the-point kind of way. But it’s likely not Giuliani’s bag (heh). He’s more a of “big production” kind of guy.

cmkeller, manhattan, your points are well taken. I thought the situation was humorous for the following reasons:

a) Mr. Giuliani’s attempt to close down the “Sensation” exhibit in Brooklyn was for reasons of “morality”, i.e. this show is offensive, not because he objects to public funding of the arts per se. One of the main objets d’art under discussion was a painting of the Virgin Mary that had small photographs of vaginas affixed to it.

b) His wife is currently appearing in a show that has vagina in the title. I’ll take your word for it, manhattan, that it’s a run-of-the-mill show, but in several articles that mention the play I see the title preceded by the word “controversial.”

c) The main humor came, in my view, from a commentator portraying Hillary Clinton’s friendship with the author of “The Vagina Monologues” as a sign of her immorality. So what does it say that Richard Giuliani’s wife appears in the theatrical production?

I suppose my comment was unfair to Mr. Giuliani, but I probably won’t lose much sleep over that.

I read on the AP Newswire that Giuliani’s wife, Donna Hanover, has withdrawn from her role in the Off-Broadway show “The Vagina Monologues.”

I can only hope one of the NY tabs will have the headline tomorrow, “DONNA PULLS OUT OF VAGINA!”

I read on the AP Newswire that Giuliani’s wife, Donna Hanover, has withdrawn from her role in the Off-Broadway show “The Vagina Monologues.”

I can only hope one of the NY tabs will have the headline tomorrow, “DONNA PULLS OUT OF VAGINA!”

Re; Criminalizing homelessness. Look for the song"It Could Happen to You" by Blue Rodeo. The video features the people evicted from the building mentioned in the song.
Keith

Did the people being evicted have a right to be there? I don’t mean an imagined, idealistic “everyone has the right to…” right, I mean an actual legal right, e.g., agreement by the owner of said building for them to reside there.

Next question: were the evicted people guilty of a crime? Or did they at least have warrants out for their arrests? Violations of parole?

A video of an eviction does not tell me that said evictors are “criminalizing the homeless.” Let’s try facts for a refreshing change.

Chaim Mattis Keller

I am really afraid that Rudy’s announced illness will make the Witch Woman a shoe-in for the senate. This woman really scares me, I expect that she will start her senate career with a pardon for ex-president Bill!

I love it when left-wingers, who so passionatly decry the right-wing for being hateful and intolerant, proudly display their own hate and intolerance. They so love to call people nazi and fascist and dance with glee at the death or suffering of those who don’t agree with them.

Flang Dang, I think you might have misinterpreted the perceived jubilance in this thread. Have you ever seen a New Orleans jazz funeral? In a similar way, the left-wingers are showing their joy, because, despite death and suffering, life goes on and should be celebrated.