I didn’t mean to imply it. 
I am always amused when it turns out I am more worldly with sexual terminology and acts than people. I grew up *extremely * sheltered and still think of myself as naive, even though I suppose I am not.
Hey, Gfactor, thanks for the cool links. waves
Then, unless you (by mistake, or for fighting-ignorance purposes) go into the wrong room, you probably will never see one IRL.
Unless we get unisex bathrooms!
pulls out picket sign
NO UNISEX BATHROOMS
Any time.
Of course not. You meant to come right out and say it.
For the record this is not a term that routinely comes up in novels or porn. (Straight porn at least). I’d guess that 95% of the straight people who’ve heard it, heard it in the same way - from some friend in college who acted shocked that they’d never heard of them. 
ok, then, I guess I have to report from the front, as it were. In many adult book shops and video shops, there are booths where you can put in your quarter or token and watch a short exerpt from a porn movie and whack off, if that’s your pleasure. In many of these places, there are glory holes where you could, if you were so inclined, get serviced by someone in the next booth, or you could service that guy, if he had the inclination to try you out. I’ve not done either of these things, but I know for a fact that they certainly do exist. Hell, in a lot of these places, guys just hang out by the doors of these booths - no pretense at all - and if you let them, they’ll just follow you into the booth and do your thing, if you get my drift, and then move on. No need for glory holes. Greater need for anti-biotics, maybe. We may not be in Kansas anymore, Toto.
Mmkay… so there are people who like to have sex so anonymously that they don’t even see the other person, people who like to have sex so skeevy that a bathroom full of bathroom sounds and bathroom smells suits them just fine… and they prefer this tiny microfragment of intimacy with another person, even with all the risks involved, to just doing themselves in the privacy and convenience of wherever they can be alone???
The world is full of people who seem odd to me. Label this “People’s Exhibit #353813” I guess.
But I’ve only ever seen it in straight porn! I don’t look at any gay porn, and I don’t really read any gay erotica unless it’s slash, and there’s no anonynmity there.
I’ve seen it with girls on the this side of the wall, kneeling, or whatever, and they’re usually dressed really sexy, too, and obviously enjoying it. Several women in a room. (Porn can be so silly sometimes.) But with the exception of that one novel it’s always been women on this side, men on that.
Personal experience story.
Many moons ago, I lived in Austin and was involved in the PD’s ride-along program, where civilians could ride in the patrol cars. One night, our unit got a call about someone screaming for help in the men’s room at a nightclub. It was a gay bar.
To make a long story short, our victim had shoved his johnson through a glory hole. The guy on the other side had apparently tickled it for a moment, then rammed a long pin through it, effectively preventing the other guy from withdrawing without doing even more serious damage.
There were other incidents that I learned about, one involving burning it with a cigarette and the other involving whacking it with a shoe.
Both the pin and the cigarette were mentioned in the police novel The Choirboys by Joseph Wambaugh. In the novel, the pin trick was related as an urban legend within the vice squad. In the same scene, the storytelling cop told of another vice cop that used a cigar on an unsuspecting johnson.
I’m not saying it didn’t happen, but if a police novel tells it as urban legend, …
They probably were telling stories like this back in the 17th about those European glory holes that Anaamika was talking about.
But **Clothahump ** was there! You’re not doubting his veracity, are you?
These are constant problems in many university libraries. At my grad school, there was an article in the student paper (which was years ago) about the sheer maintenence issues involved. The holes would be filled in, covered in sheet metal, and they would reappear in a day or two. Based on the type of people who caught “in the act” (almost never students), there were also a lot of issues with such people even outside the bathrooms.
Once a locale gets a rep as a gathering place, it is very difficult to undo the rep.
Who were they, faculty?
Or if she were to rent the John Waters movie Desperate Living, which features twin glory holes in a lesbian bar restroom (for the boobies).
When I was 17, I experienced a Glory Hole for the first time in the thrid floor bathroom of the Downtown Rochester Public Library. I had gone up to the third floor because it was less crowded, and I don’t like crowds when I’m taking a dump. There was another man in front of the sink, and I nodded to him the way rubes nod at each other when they meet, and went into the stall. I did notice the hole, but didn’t think of what it might be for. As I was sitting down, another man (I believe the man I nodded to) got into the adjacent stall and “beckoned” to me. He stuck his finger through the hole and then stroked the edge of the hole, moving his finger back and forth. I leapt up and hiked up my pants, and walked very quickly out to the hall.
Well I can weigh in on the empirical evidence side - I’ve actually used a glory hole myself. I’d like to stress that it was in a sex club where it was one of the variety of “options” available for people to enjoy themselves, so there was no risk of anyone being involved who didn’t know what they were doing (it was actually a group of six cubicles, three by three, with holes leading from each to each - no toilets or anything involved).
However, I would never (if I saw one) use a public glory whole in a public toilet - I mean :eek: Just how many things could go wrong with that? So they do exist, in a variety of forms and locations, but I don’t know anyone who’s used one in public. I agree that sex so anonymous that you don’t even see the person you’re involved is pretty crap (psychologically), and not something I recommend people get into particularly.
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Your jaw dropped? Something tells me a crude joke could be made here; but I’m not the man to do it.
How does one cut a 4-ince diameter hole through a steel partition in a library bathroom without being noticed?
Depending on what school ftg means, it could very well just be drifters. I’ve found bums sleeping in the math department lounge here at Yale when I’m in late at night. Take a university with undergrads who are so insulated from the real world that they don’t think security precautions (like not opening doors to everyone) apply to them and drop it in the middle of a decently-sized city and you’ll find all sorts of people around the buildings.
I used to blow glass. Even today I still chuckle when I hear that.
“Go on, stick your pipe in the glory hole”