Origin of the "Glory Hole"

Ricky Gervais, in a stand-up comedy routine, discussed “Glory Holes”. For those that don’t know, this is a hole in the wall of a bathroom stall, where a man can stick his penis through and presumably get an anonymous blow job (or hand job, I suppose).

I had heard about this before, but always chalked it up as an urban legend. He claimed, however, that the story he told was true. It made the local newspaper in his hometown. This got me thinking…

I don’t know if there is a factual answer to this, so please mods move this if it is in the wrong forum.

My questions are these:

  1. If ***not ***an urban legend, how did/could something like this get started? I have been in a number of public restroom stalls in my lifetime, and if any hole exists in a wall, I personally will not use that particular stall. If I have no choice, I would plug up that hole with a wad of toilet paper before using the stall. I have seen a hole in walls of a stall or two in my lifetime, but never thought much of them, except to make sure they were covered before using the stall in case some strange ranger was on the other side and wanted to take a peek. Until Gervais’ story, I honestly never thought anyone would actually **USE **the hole as he described.

I could never imagine two things:

  1. seeing someone’s penis coming at me through a hole in the wall, or
  2. if I were homosexual (no offense meant, I am making the assumption that someone who would do this in a men’s restroom to be a homosexual), sticking my penis through a hole in a bathroom stall wall to attempt to get a total stranger to get me off. Hell, I wouldn’t stick my penis through a hole in the wall if I were in the women’s restroom. Who knows what the other person would do to it?

I find it hard to believe that someone would actually stick his penis through such a hole. The negative potential far outweigh any positive outcome. Having someone on the other side smacking the penis, biting it, or doing god knows what to it seems to be a risky proposition at best. So my questions are:

  1. Is a “Glory Hole” something that is an actual thing, actually used by men in situations such as a public restroom, or is it an urban legend?

  2. If you believe this is ***not ***an urban legend, is it because you have first-hand (no pun intended) knowledge (you’ve been on one side of the hole or the other and have participated in this practice) or you know of someone who has shared a story about a “Glory Hole” incident with you? If you happened to be sitting there minding (and doing) your own business, and someone’s penis came through a hole in the wall toward you, I’d count that as first-hand knowledge, even if you did nothing but get out of there as quickly as possible. That would indicate that the guy on the other side had some idea that something good might come out of his action, even if you weren’t willing to be a part of it.

  3. How would something like this get started, and how would the idea of the function of the “Glory Hole” get around to the point of public knowledge?
    I find this to be a truly bizarre concept, but I guess anything is possible.

This is the only Glory Hole I’m aware of.

From what I have heard, glory holes are not urban legends. I know someone (not me) who has been the recipient of service from a glory hole.

I don’t think it’s every men’s room. The ones that do have it, people who are interested know the location and “etiquette.”

I didn’t mean to imply that it is in *every *men’s room. Sorry if that came across in the OP.

Also, my apologies for the repeat question in the OP. I missed the edit window, but I mistakenly have two question 1’s, which are essentially the same question. I should have proof-read the OP a bit better.

Shawn1767, if I read your post correctly, your friend actually stuck his penis through the hole? Did he give any details, such as did he see the other person on the way out? Was he afraid he wasn’t going to get his penis back? Or is there some sort of “ettiquette”, as **TheChlieanBlob **mentions?

I can’t remember who the congressman was who apparently was caught in a bathroom sting with some sort of foot signalling to the cop in the next stall, so there must be some unwritten (or written, what the hell do I know?) code where people who do this sort of thing know how to communicate with each other.

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The guy who I knew in high school (25 years ago) was a senior when I was a junior. He was known for frequenting massage parlors and things of that nature. He said that the best blow job he ever got was from a glory hole. Apparently, he went to some place in the French Quarter (I live in New Orleans) and stuck his dick in a hole. Some unseen person sucked him off. He was a little disconcerted as to whether it was a male or female on the other end, but I guess it didn’t bother him in the end. He was tempted to look through the hole to see the other person, but decided against it because he said he didn’t want the other person’s dick poking through and hitting him in the eye, or having the other person think he was going to suck the other person off. I didn’t know this guy well, he was more of a friend of a friend. Actually, he was exactly that, a friend of my best friend at the time.

Try to Google gloryhole as a single word with Safesearch Off. You’ll find a lot of straight stuff. I’d guess that having a woman on the receiving side is extremely low odds, but I know that there are a couple of adult theaters in our area that have catered to this sort of thing. From reading the local police reports, I’d guess that when it is a woman it’s most often a prostitute, although I’m sure there are some fetishes involved. These places are occasionally raided with interesting results. I wouldn’t be surprised if some swinger type places also have these.

My personal experience: when I first went to school in Gainesville, I once REALLY had to use the toilet while at the Student Union. Whilst so involved, I noticed there was a hole in the wall - there was no time to check this on the way in - and some guy in the next stall was giving me a (unwanted) show, jerking his stuff. The hole was near the TP dispenser and several inches square. I have no idea if it was intended for such use, and the show really squicked me out. I finished up and got out of there as quickly as possible. Nothing ever came poking through, but it did come close.

Not a UL, I have a Gay friend in SF who used to do (and be done) at gloryholes. Mind you, this was not a random mens room, they were certain mens rooms known for this behavior. They also occur in those X-rated arcades.

When I was a naive young 19 year old I worked in maintenance at the mall and my supervisor was obsessive about plugging holes in the walls in the men’s stalls. I had no idea what a glory hole was and couldn’t fathom why this made him crazy. Even after he explained I thought he was just paranoid. Since then I’ve heard of them and been lead to believe that they do indeed exist. But I have no first-hand experience to verify them.

A glory hole and its use features prominently in two episodes ofthe TV show It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

The term “glory hole” to mean a hole cut in the wall between bathroom stalls is first found in print in 1949(so far) in a book call Gay Girls Guide where it’s described as “Phallic size hole in partition between toilet booths. Sometimes used also for a mere peep-hole.”

So, it was out there as a slang term in the homosexual community by then.

Yes they do exist. In fact I would not let my children go into a public bathroom with out checking it first.**** I use to work maintenance for a department store. It is unreal what people will do n a bathroom.

I know of one case where a guy got a pen stabbed through his penis by sticking it through a hole in the wall.

In one store the police made 72 arrest before noon one day.

A man with his 4 year old child walked in two men going at on the bathroom floor.

The CEO doing store inspections walked into two men having sex in the bathroom.

In one store the boy kept giving the light tube a 1/4 twist turning off some of the llights to give mood lighting?

In more than one store we had to put stainless steel sheets over the sides so holes could not be poked in them.

They are real and actually used in some restrooms. A Doper who was usually on the ‘service’ side of the wall explained it in detail once in a thread dedicated to it. I don’t know if anyone can find it. There is etiquette involved and it mainly happens only in certain hot spot restrooms like rest stops and libraries. There are codes that they use that are so subtle that other people don’t notice if they aren’t aware that anything is being communicated. Shoe tapping like some type of gay Morse Code is a common method to arrange things immediately. The people that service and those that get it hardly ever see each other. It just comes and goes pretty quickly.

Here is an older thread very similar to yours but it isn’t the ask and tell one:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=353813&highlight=glory+hole+restroom+tap*

Yeah, it’s not a random thing. You don’t just find a hole and give it a go, there are places that are known for this kind of thing. Here in Britain it’s called cottaging. It’s usually best to have a look out, and depending on the local ‘cottage etiquette’, there can be passwords or foot signals involved. One place a friend used to us involved draping the toilet paper over the side of the stall to indicate you were up for it, though he did find that out by accident.

Though my older friends know more about it, since it has been heavily policed in recent times.

Does anyone know if there was a glory hole in the partition of the stall in which the U.S. Senator was arrested a couple of years ago?

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The TV show “The Shield” did a treatment of the glory hole in Season 5 Ep. 10. I had heard the term prior to viewing that episode; but I do not recall where. After seeing that I must say that if I had a penus that would be that LAST :eek:place I would put it.

On a more humorous note. The way I view the world is as a potential SNL skit. When I first heard of a certain discount club named **B.**low J.obs I thought your discount would be based on how many you performed. As you roll your wagon down the aisles of TV’s, groceries or whatever there would be signs near each item:
36" flat screen TV reg. price $2000.00
5 BJ price $1500.00
10 BJ price $1000.00

Also when you had some spare time and did not need anything from the store you could go in and “bank” the BJ’s.

This would be set up with many many glory holes so you wouldn’t know you were servicing your neighbor, or the principal of the elemental school or the guy who sold you your car, whatever.

OK, maybe this isn’t funny but that is just the way my mind works.

I guess this is my claim to fame around here. To answer the OP’s questions (in no particular order):

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, . . . and yes.

I saw a silent porn reel from the '20s that featured a ‘glory hole’. Three bathing beauties are approached by a nerdy-looking guy, and they agree to have sex with him. The catch is that he has to have sex with them through a hole in a wooden fence so he can’t see them. Ah, but these women were tricksters! With the man behind the fence, they brought out a sheep.