Gobb is Pitted

Most of us have heard most of what they’re saying.

Having two political parties isn’t inherently, or doesn’t automatically have to be, the problem (though I would prefer more viable parties).

Everything really did get dramatically worse when Newt Gingrich brazenly announced that the other side wasn’t a group of colleagues to be negotiated with and have dinner and drinks with; they were enemies to be treated as enemies, stopped at every opportunity, and crushed whenever possible. They were to be painted as evil and an existential threat to all that we hold sacred and the lives of ourselves and our children.

They do that through horrid straw man arguments, outright lies, and dramatic, hyperbolic exaggerations of the other side’s positions. Because their audience lives in a nearly perfect information silo, they are vulnerable to this kind of misinformation and demagoguery. They literally don’t know any better.

They take fearful people, make them ever more afraid, and then give them a laundry list of Bad Things That Democrats Do, and make them thoroughly terrified. And they’re totally made up.

Then, they send their candidate out to say, “I, alone, can fix it.”

It was a very long run of political Mutually Assured Destruction before that, but Newt … went nuclear when nobody else really had.

He’s still doing it today, and his followers have taken pages straight out of his playbook.

I’ve been a registered Independent for decades, but today’s Republican party is simply disgusting.

I am not convinced that answer is to be more like them, which to me means to be a lesser version of them.

They don’t want to have an actual dialogue, and it is much easier to start nasty rumors and lies than it is to spend time and effort trying to dispute them.

“I’m not actually like the things I say, I’m a moderate”

That’s just about as clichéd as “I’m not bigoted, some of my best friends are <insert_here>”

And, “I’m a moderate, but if you aren’t nicer to bigots and MAGA, I’ll be forced to vote for Trump for a fourth time.”

“Some of my best friends are libtards!”

you don’t think Trump has alientated 50% of the country?

So, how many times did you vote for the insane bigot in chief? And, if you say anything less than 3, I’ll know you’re lying.

What was your handle when you were posting here before?

Can you tell us how we are supposed to have a “dialogue” when an honest “dialogue” is something they wouldn’t touch with a ten-foot pole?

Absolute bullshit, but thank you for letting us know how “moderate” you really are, lying asshole.

And then what? We LISTEN to the right say they want to deny people who aren’t white cis Christian males civil rights, then what? Give in to them? LISTENING to people express views that you are fundamentally opposed to doesn’t somehow resolve the fundamental opposition between the two sides. What if you LISTEN to someone and are repulsed by what you hear?

Exactly. And they’re so angry (about things that are not even happening). I listened to Hannity and Mark Levin for a couple of years. I’m sure if I tuned in now, I’d hear a lot about how the Democrat Party [sic] has shut down the government because they are insisting on taxpayer health care to illegal immigrants and terrorists.

Gee, another sealion.

When only one side gets to use Mr. Microphone on a regular basis, the “debate” is already lost. Who will be broadcasting this rebuttal, and what is stopping the right from spewing even more bullshit while the rebuttal is being attempted? Fires are being started all over the damn place, on purpose, and your “solution” is to try to put them out after the assholes have fanned the flames.

Spread your shit elsewhere-They will not debate!

Debates aren’t a way of determining which policies are correct, debates are a sideshow won by the person best at playing word games. They are loved by Young Earth Greationists, for example. Duane Gish was great at winning debates against more intelligent, better educated people with the facts on their side because he was a good sideshow barker.

Since when are either side shy about saying what they think? I know what the right wing thinks, and I think that what they think makes them bad people. There are not “good people on both sides” today, any more than there were “good people on both sides” of desegregation in the 1960s.

I like the strategy, engage and keep this idiot confined to this thread.

Democrats didn’t say Krik deserved to be killed or attacked for his views. That’s insane.

Using what? Mental telepathy?? Either you are stupid enough to fall for this bullshit, or you think we are. Which is it?