God, do I despise Florida State University.

Gator here, too. I laughed out loud when I read your post, as I was thinking the EXACT same thing.

(Although, you forgot to mention that the middle-finger must be extended for the accompanying tomahawk chop :slight_smile:

Hey! Make it a trifecta, round-robin tournament with Michigan and you could form yourself a new circle of hell.

Rock and Roll Part 2.

I don’t think so, either. See:

Do you really think coaches aren’t pressured by those above them to pay a lot of attention to athletic ability and turn a blind eye to the personal attributes of the prospective attributes? I would doubt this starts with coaches.

Anyway, any hack with a local newspaper subscription and (optionally) the time and means to attend high school football games can become familiar in exquisite detail with the local prospects’ athletic accomplishments. I assure you, while Reggie Bush (as an example of top high school talent, not as an example of a criminal) went to high school here, San Diegans would’ve had to try to not become familiar with his athletic accomplishments.

I’m not saying it’s impossible to gauge the character of any high school football player. I’m saying that if the nation’s top running back plays high school football somewhere in (say) Arizona, and the coaches of the U. Arizona and Arizona St. both look into him, then one of the two drops it because he has a bad feeling about the kid’s morals and the other school picks him up–you don’t think there could possibly be ramifications for the careers of both coaches?

The two examples are a world apart. How can Terrible Towels be like nails on a chalkboard in the first place? Do you cringe when you see nails on a chalkboard, or when you hear them? While a visual phenomenon like the waving of the towels may be irritating to some, it doesn’t assault your eardrums.

Because someone likes or even practices one football ritual, they’re supposed to like all the others too? What if one of the football rituals involves mocking your team? Are you bound by the laws of morality to refrain from criticizing it? What if it’s utterly tasteless? Are you not allowed to Pit it?

After (actually, while) our Padres smoked the Braves in the 1998 NLCS, palm-tree-shaped tomahawks went for sale at Qualcomm Stadium and we had a lot of fun with those for a while. I lost mine after a couple of years.

He didn’t say that he hated all types of ritual cheers. He said that he hated that one and gave good reasons for it.

Am I hypocritical because I don’t like broccoli but I do like asparagus?

I watched the game last night too, and I heard the chants the whole game, and they didn’t bother me a bit.

Seeing a stadium full of Stiller fans waving their hankeys in the air is something I find very annoying ( And we’ve gotten a lot of them bastards out of the Purple Palace lately Crotalus, it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. Plenty showed up this year though and got to watch the black and gold lose to a Ravens team that quite frankly, sucked. That was fun.).
Different strokes for different folks and all that, but at heart they are the same thing.

Your last argument, in this case, holds no water. The Seminole Nation, located in Florida, is not only not demeaned (even a bit) by the FSU mascot and chant, they are proud of and fully support it. When the NCAA came out with its “no Native American mascot/logos” directive it was the Seminole Nation that rallied and worked closely with FSU to get an exemption. If the chant irritates you, so be it, but don’t theow out the “demeaning” card, 'cause its been trumped.